October 30, 2008 12:25 PM PDT

Buzz Out Loud 842: Forking Google

by Tom Merritt
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Google has joined the OpenID crowd, but just like Microsoft and Yahoo, you can't use the OpenID on Google, but you can use Google credentials other places. Unlike Microsoft and Yahoo though, Google has decided to tweak the OpenID implementation a little to make it better. That means that it's nonstandard and won't work for all standards-compliant OpenID servers. Bullies. We also admire the new DRM-free music store from clothing retailer, Hot Topic. Really.


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Episode 842

TiVo to stream Netflix
http://newteevee.com/2008/10/29/october-surprise-tivo-to-stream-netflix/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10078711-1.html

MTV and Apple announce Beatles music project
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/30/rock-band-the-beatles-now-official/

Motorola: No Google Android ‘GPhones’ til next christmas
http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/10/motorola-no-google-android-gphones-til-next-christmas

OpenMoko working up Android-based handset?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/30/openmoko-working-up-android-based-handset/

Hands on: Windows Media Player 12’s surprising new features
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081030-hands-on-windows-media-player-12s-surprising-new-features.html

Court rules hash analysis is a Fourth Amendment “search”
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081029-court-rules-hash-analysis-is-a-fourth-amendment-search.html

Google abandons standards, forks OpenID
http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/google-doesnt-use-openid/
http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/10/29/2043218.shtml
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081029-openid-being-balkanized-even-as-google-microsoft-sign-on.html

Study shows social networking at work is good
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/29/2212254

Hot Topic launches DRM-free music service
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10078414-2.html

USB Port is neither USB nor Port, just amazing
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/30/usb-port-is-neither-usb-nor-port-just-amazing/

Voice mail

Shane in Vegas - iPhone firmware 2.2’s nifty new feature
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/10/downloadpodcast.html#more

Erin in New York - You know who else uses wireless mics
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081029-rockers-refuse-to-throw-the-horns-for-white-space-broadband.html

James Irvine - Decentralized search

E-mail
Hey Buzz Crew
Just thought I’d let you know there is a hybrid F-150 in the works saw it on auto blog and I’ve tried the RFID package at the Chicago auto show and it is SWEET asked them how much the RFID’s cost $. 25 but you have to buy them in packs
Love the show
Tristan
P.S.thought you might find it cool that As an aerospace welder our shop has been working on an X prize rocket I’d give you more details but I can’t

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Hi Buzz Crew,
I know you guys don’t like it and maybe you think its stupid but I will admit it: Google Goggles is a good thing. When I heard about it on your podcast I immediate activated it for my main Gmail account. I keep it on level one but I know sometimes when I am really drunk I can’t even do those simple calculations on my calculator that is right next to my computer.
So maybe people won’t admit it but I will. Sometimes I send out stupid (drunk) emails. (To bad this isn’t used on my phone too :)
You guys have always said that Google doesn’t do anything stupid (non-productive). Believe me people will use it, even if they don’t admit it.
For those of us who like the service,
Thurman
Brooklyn, NY

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In response to the caller's question on Episode 841 "What use is Google Earth"? - I work at an architecture firm in Dallas, TX, and we use Google Earth to place 3D models of client projects (created in Google SketchUp) into their actual location during the design process. This allows us to present our designs to our clients in a 3D format that they can manipulate from their own computers. This also has the added benefit of populating Google Earth with a few more 3D buildings for the people who just use it to look at stuff. There's my two cents - Love the show!

Chase

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by burndive October 30, 2008 2:16 PM PDT
Standard Bittorrent needs a tracker, which IS centralized for each individual torrent, (that's how you can find the other peers).

And when will I be able to use OpenID to comment?

LTS
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by double_clutch October 30, 2008 10:31 PM PDT
I have a suggestion regarding B Tong's MyFace integration with Beebo. Perhaps "BeMyFace"?
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by Mr_Potatos October 31, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
While landing the Beatles rights is pretty solid....I don't see it as THAT big of a deal. Too little too late in my opinion. The young teenage crowd whom I believe to be a majority of the RockBand/Guitar Hero buyers more than likely won't appreciate a Beatles themed game. They may be an icon, but teenagers I'm guessing would rather play a Panic song that's remixed with lil wayne.

The Beatles have lost their popularity with the sub 20 crowd, especially "gamers"
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