August 28, 2008 11:48 AM PDT

Buzz Out Loud 798: There is no poop, so leave the diamonds alone

by Molly Wood
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It's a tortured analogy sort of day, including some confusing stuff about water and water bottles and then a whole long thing about a sandbox, poop, and dirty diamonds. You'll love it. In the actual news today, the IE8 beta arrives (has it solved the malicious cross-scripting problem!?), and several judges seem to have actually visited the Internet. And so did Aaron Sorkin! And he liked it!
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EPISODE 798

IE 8 beta gives other browsers a run for their money
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10027345-83.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7585741.stm

State cannot force removal of SSNs from privacy advocate’s site
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/08/28/1536249.shtml

Music labels rethink iTunes, again; same old gripe of album vs singles
http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-music-labels-rethink-itunes-again-same-old-gripe-of-album-vs-singles/

“Galactica” proves the ratings system is dead
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26396271/

Veoh defeats copyright infringement lawsuit
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10027926-93.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121989796262379185.html
http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/8/a-victory-for-video-sites-court-grants-veoh-its-dmca-defense-in-copyright-case

YouTube finally figures out how to make money: Big ads on its home page
http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/8/youtube-finally-figures-out-how-to-make-money-big-ads-on-its-homepage

Report: AT&T source explains exact technical details of iPhone 3G problems - Thanks Jay!
http://www.dailytech.com/Report+ATT+Source+Explains+Exact+Technical+Details+of+iPhone+3G+Probems/article12797.htm

Why can’t they fix the Flash/Firefox bug?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10027752-2.html

Aaron Sorkin creates Facebook page, writing Facebook movie
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/08/confirmed_aaron_sorkin_creates.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7585632.stm

Hackers prepare supermarket sweep
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7584258.stm

Man’s ‘pants’ password is changed
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/shropshire/7585098.stm

Voice mail

Josh in Denver
Hydrogen-powered cars.

Anonymous Analyst
Made a site.

E-mail

Hey BOL Crew,
I think that Psystar’s counter-suit against Apple, saying that they
violated anti-trust laws, is completely bogus. It’s as if someone were
to sue Dasani saying that they are violating anti-trust laws by
packaging water in the specific Dasani bottle. Now, if the consumer
wants to put the water from the Dasani bottle into their own - they
can. Just like the OSx86 project. Now, if you were to sell Dasani
water in your own bottle, it’s obvious that you are ripping of Dasani.
It’s the same situation with Apple v Psystar. If Psystar wins, it’s
like allowing the common people to make Apple’s company decisions.

-John

**********

Hey Guys,

On 797, you briefly mentioned the use of the letter “Y” and how it
began with Buffy The Vampire Slayer.

I’m a little confused… Are you saying that shows didn’t commonly
exist prior to Buffy with “Y”s at the end, or that “Buffy” was
originally “Buff The Vampire Slayer,” but they added the “Y” to give
it the secret Whedon sauce of success?

It sounded like there was a reasoning behind the “Y” but you didn’t
really explain. Please do.

Tim
St. Louis, Mo.

P.S. Was Molly originally “Moll” before the “Y” craze?

**********

Hey hey TMJ,

I’m fully not expecting this to be on the podcast tomorrow, but wanted to share my fangirl love for you guys. At 3 different points in podcast 797 I was talking back to you guys while driving home from work!

1. Hey Tom, #800 won’t be on Monday, but on Tuesday, unless you guys are podcasting on Labor Day :)
2. Hey Molly, answering the phone in Japanese isn’t “konichiwa” (although that is technically “hello”), but “moshi moshi”. As a japanophile, I thought you’d know that one! :)
3. Hey Jason, when you asked “are you ready for some soft rock!” I was waiting for Johnathan Coulton’s “Soft Rocked by Me” from his Thing a Week collection: http://www.jonathancoulton.com/2006/06/02/thing-a-week-35-soft-rocked-by-me/

PS Jason, how’s your DirecTV?

Love you guys!
Amy in the East Bay

**********

Hey Buzz Crew,
I was just listening to episode #797 , and the near Molly rant about
Apple pulling apps form the App Store made me fire up the old
Powerbook, put the baby in the swing and give you my two cents. The
way I see it is that Apple built the sandbox, ordered the sand, and
even made sure the dumb truck did not wreck their yard. Now all they
are trying to do is get the cat poop out the it. I guess what I’m
trying to say is that I dont see any difference between Apple pulling
apps, for what ever reason, even for no reason at all. And those signs
you see that every mom and pop restaurant that state ” We reserve the
right refuse service to anyone”. Is Apple being a tool do doing this,
yes? But its still their sandbox.

Love the show,
Never seen a kindle in the wild,

Mark-o from Portland

As host of the Buzz Report video series, Molly provides a fresh and funny perspective on the latest consumer electronic products to hit the market, as well as commentary on the stories and development that she thinks are truly buzz-worthy. She is also co-host of Buzz Out Loud, CNET's "podcast of indeterminate length," which entertains listeners with a funny and skeptical take on the day's technology news. Her other podcast, Gadgettes, is proof that girls can be geeks too.
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by brightonRidge755 August 28, 2008 12:39 PM PDT
The show is only 1.6 Megs in size, on itunes and on the web site, and cuts off after 2.45 minutes {or there about's} whats up ??
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by mdkirkland August 28, 2008 12:58 PM PDT
it seems the show is a bit short... what's up?
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by raygun01 August 28, 2008 1:33 PM PDT
Not quite sure why it downloaded short for you... I just checked the feed and the entire podcast downloaded in full for me via iTunes. Erase and download again. I can't really explain what happened to cause that. :/
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by Frontline99 August 28, 2008 1:55 PM PDT
I have the same issue using IE6
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by Gameking7 August 28, 2008 2:12 PM PDT
It wasn't working for Firefox 3 either, it downloaded as 2 files, one a 0mb .part file and another a 0mb .mp3, Hope you fix it Jason, :>
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by digrifter August 28, 2008 2:14 PM PDT
Yes, there's definitely something wrong, it keeps ending sooner than it should.
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by raygun01 August 28, 2008 3:36 PM PDT
I have the mighty tech folks working on this. Sorry everyone. Strange because some people have reported downloading the entire episode, others get a truncated version. Looking into it. Try downloading from this page if all else fails.
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by Wisnaeme August 28, 2008 4:37 PM PDT
Hey! 2 minutes and 45 seconds? Crap, I'll never get to sleep without a laugh at BOL first.

Is this punishment for calling the other day? Darn.

Robertv
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by and448 August 28, 2008 5:23 PM PDT
hey guys...yep, same problem, latest episode cuts at 2:47 on iTunes. What's up, is Jason gone again?

So you know, the last 2 or 3 episodes have also been cutting off, but right at the end so i didn't bother reporting it....but I guess there's some general going on cos yeah, the latest file is way too short...??
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by rengel August 29, 2008 6:21 AM PDT
Hey BOL! The bit about IE-8 got me to download the beta and what a disappointment! You commented about no support for linux (yes, it is disappointing) but even worse, MS, being the hi-tech, forward looking comapany they are, doesn't even support WINDOWS. At least not my version of Windows, Win XP Pro X-64. Over and over they has demonstrated that they have a very narrow focus on development. They can't even support their much hyped 64 bit operating system. Even the 64 bit IE that comes with X-64 can't be used to do a security upgrade. MS is so weird.
(End of rant ..... tempoarily)
Of course I love the show. Almost goes without saying.
....... old-angel
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by jollybliss August 29, 2008 8:11 AM PDT
Heya JaMoTo!

Feedback on your New Site sans bleeding retinas....

I like it, it's fine.... I come for you guys not the graphics anyway! ok ok on that point in this age where the internet is my memory augmentation and I don't remember anything, (differed remembrance) sometimes I come to cnet.com forgetting bol.cnet.com and I've tried to just plug in "buzz out loud" in the top search bar on the NEW cnet home page.

IT DOESN'T WORK! nothing as of just then comes up! What injustice is this?

Well actually...... (hehe.... and has anyone noticed that when molly does "that" voice it sounds like Dan Ackerman..... no slight to the insightful reviewer! love to all the wonderful and varied cnet cohort I say! I'm a square black kettle btw :-P)

Where was I.... oh yes Well Actually (I just wanted to say that) I had tried your search on your previous home site and typing 'buzz out loud" wasn't really fruitful or clear either. Got lost in ads and other confusing stuff. I gave up and used google. I still think that your search is a little messy. I don't personally like the sponsors interspersed between the results it's confusing and loses me. Googles sponsors at the top I find clearer and now to think of it suprisingly less obtrusive.

Anyway maybe you should do a yahoo and outsource your search.......resistance is useless to our complete assimilation
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