April 16, 2009 10:25 AM PDT

Conservative commentator George Will slams gamers

by Dan Ackerman
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Probably doesn't own a Wii.

In a bizarre aside shoehorned into his most recent column, conservative writer (and self-professed baseball fanatic) George Will takes a swipe at video-game-playing adults.

Seventy-five percent of American "gamers" -- people who play video games -- are older than 18 and nevertheless are allowed to vote.

The actual thrust of the column is about a much more serious threat to the fiber (no pun intended) of our country -- people wearing jeans. He calls it "the plague of that ubiquitous fabric, which is symptomatic of deep disorders in the national psyche."

The latest demographic data on gamers is always readily available from the Entertainment Software Association, a trade group for the video game industry.

The group's latest stats show that only 25-percent of gamers are under 18, and that the average gamer is 35 years old and has been playing for 13 years.

New York native Dan Ackerman, a former radio DJ turned journalist, has written about technology and music for publications including Spin, Blender, The Hollywood Reporter, and USA Today. He hosts the weekly Digital City podcast and the New York edition of Editors' Office Hours. Dan's new album, Tales Out of Night School, is available now. E-mail Dan.
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by drbohner April 16, 2009 10:54 AM PDT
I suppose he voted for Obama and wants the Guns removed from all Video Games, too? Just think, when all the guns are removed from the Gamers, we'll have to run around Call of Duty with bats and pitchforks.

Will - this is what I have to say to you... "FORK YOU" (since that's the only weapon we'll have left when his breath runs out)...

-ghostapha
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by moo-shu_cereal April 16, 2009 12:07 PM PDT
George Will is a conservative commentator. Trust me, he did not vote for Obama. And no one is going to take your guns...
by brandonh33 April 16, 2009 2:18 PM PDT
If obama had his way we wouldnt have violence in videogames, in call of duty we would talk things out with no preconditions. We would then accomplish nothing and pretend everything is wonderful. Sounds like the best damn videogame ever.
by SNOOP_ROCA April 16, 2009 2:36 PM PDT
Brandonh33, what the hell are you talking about? Even tho Obama wanted to talk things out, I HIGHLY doubt he would care what's going on in video games. I hate people who make claims that make no sense
by brandonh33 April 16, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
@snoop, its a joke, calm down. You know what I hate? People that dont have a sense of humor.
by johnb6597 April 16, 2009 3:17 PM PDT
Wow...we went from gamers to guns in about 1.7 seconds. Gotta be a new record.

Democrats don't want your weapons. Hell, how else are we gonna prevent Republicans like George Will from taking our games and jeans away from us?
by ender21 April 16, 2009 3:35 PM PDT
brandonh33, does snoop know you personally and thus should know your sense of humor? Since you offer no emoticons or obviously humorous lines, and indeed your writing appears on its face to be that of yet another uneducated partisan troll, without any qualifying statements to support it, how would anyone know you were joking?
by brandonh33 April 16, 2009 4:30 PM PDT
Because its funny. Unless you do not have a sense of humor... or you are a liberal. Do I need to explain comedy? Nobody needs to know my personality to understand I was making a joke. The post I was responding to was also using this thing called humor. Though you might not enjoy my humor it doesn't mean you cant understand that I am making a joke. If I were to say a dead baby joke, some might laugh, most would be offended, but nobody with basic common sense would think that I am serious about nailing dead baby's to trees.

Thank you all for ruining any attempt at comedy by discussing comedy itself. Thank you so much.
If you want to dissect those last two sentences I used a comedic tool called sarcasm. You see, I am not actually thankful for your attempt to ruin comedy but quite the opposite. See what I just did there? It is ironic that I am doing the same thing that I dislike you for doing, another tool of comedy.
by djake1234 April 16, 2009 5:36 PM PDT
Just ignore snoop and ender. They're the type of people that need a laugh track to enjoy a sitcom.
by MTN-Mountain April 16, 2009 10:33 PM PDT
He a conservative republican, you idiot. He was firmly against Obama. Duh!
by Alex7980 April 17, 2009 8:00 AM PDT
Is this guy kidding me?! This coming from a man tha loves a sport that doesn't do anything about rampant steroid use. This guy is a complete Jackass!
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by deadteck April 16, 2009 10:55 AM PDT
He must have really been deprived as a child....Anyway who cares.
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by zmnatz April 16, 2009 10:59 AM PDT
Roar!! I'm a dinosaur. Roar!! Argh, games are all for kids. Adults who play them are idiots.

But seriously, idiots like this guy and the majority of politicians should not be allowed to comment on technology. They should have to take a test first, then their opinions maybe heard. I think dinosaur politicians trying to legislate technology are FAR more dangerous than issues like gun control.
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by fleurya April 16, 2009 2:11 PM PDT
I can't believe he has the balls to comments on people's clothing style when he's walking around shamelessly with that combover!!!
by asilvera4 April 16, 2009 3:15 PM PDT
Careful, zmnatz. This guy is no doubt a complete tool, but if everyone were required to take a proficiency test before commenting on a subject, well, we'd probably be down to a half-dozen bloggers and nearly no comment sections like these...wait, I like your idea after all.
by zmnatz April 16, 2009 6:44 PM PDT
I didn't say everyone. I said politicians. I'm getting real sick of people trying to regulate tech when they have no clue what they're talking about. There's a video floating around the internet where someone goes around asking politicians which they think is worse for copyright, bittorrent or P2P? And some these idiots actually answered one way or the other without realizing they are the same F-in thing.
by Commander_Kang April 17, 2009 7:43 AM PDT
fleurya, Props for pointing out the hideous combover! Hilarious. :)
by bil_carter April 17, 2009 7:51 AM PDT
zmnatz - George Will is NOT a politician, as you adamantly declared three times. He is a commentator. You are grossly misinformed, and you should consider a quick Wiki-check before you ever write anything again. If he isn't allowed to comment on technology, than you shouldn't be allowed to comment on public policy. For that matter, I think we should take your entire right to VOTE away, since you seem to know nothing EXCEPT the finer points of video games and denim jeans. Fair, don't you think?

asilvera4 - "This guy is no doubt a complete tool'? Obviously, you have never heard of George Will, and have no idea how influential he is. If we took the very advice you give, your "proficiency" would have you relegated to the silent masses.

If the very same comments were mentioned by a walking bucket of vomit like Al Franken, do you think Ackerman would have prominently put the word "liberal" int he story title? Do you think he would have even written it? Ackerman is a hack who writes opinionated pieces disguised as journalism, but it doesn't bother anyone when he does it. George Will does NOT write journalism. He writes partisan political commentary based on his own opinion. He doesn't try to tell anyone that what he says is journalism. Ackerman does not yet understand that distinction. It probably wasn't a job requirement at Blender.
by bil_carter April 17, 2009 8:01 AM PDT
Fleurya - Did you actually make fun of George Will's "combover"? A combover is a vain attempt at hiding baldness. George Will is not bald at all. He has a part in his hair. That's not even close to the same thing. Methinks your raving hatred of all things conservative might be blinding you from the truth.

If you want to see a REAL combover, look at Dan Ackerman's picture. You can't make fun of George Will and then say Dan Ackerman looks "normal".
by LeZebraDigital April 18, 2009 9:55 AM PDT
Bil I think you sleep with him since you know so much about him.
by mpeskin April 16, 2009 11:07 AM PDT
Truly emblematic of everything that's wrong with the modern Republican Party.
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by ribby18 April 16, 2009 2:23 PM PDT
I'm a 28 yr old moderate republican, and I have to say that this it probably the case with all old-ass politicians, R or D. in fact, it is normally democrats who want to censor entertainment materials (tipper gore and the music industry anyone????)
by madiq April 16, 2009 11:14 AM PDT
I don't think that Mr. Will has ever considered the extent to which video game culture has influenced the modern military. (Indeed, some have speculated that the military looks to recruit from ardent gamers, and has tacitly been promoting war games for years.) Frankly, I wish that SOMEONE drew a parallel between last weekend's Pirate Rescue and the type of thing that Call of Duty gamers might be able to pull off without flinching. Then there's the Predator, as well as other drones that turn modern warfare into extensions of the video games.

I think the "shut down video games" crowd has been shouted down by the masses, leaving old-timers to lament the decline of Western Civilization, when they've merely been passed by by technology.
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by Pete Saman April 16, 2009 11:23 AM PDT
He probably thinks that games are played through a series of tubes
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by Brent212 April 16, 2009 1:45 PM PDT
Totally LOLed at that. Awesome.
by SNOOP_ROCA April 16, 2009 2:37 PM PDT
ROFL
by Razzl April 16, 2009 11:26 AM PDT
For the sake of finding a shred of insight in this story, let's notice the fundamental distinction between the liberal and conservative psyche exemplified here: a liberal would try to express something positive about themself, such as saying "I'm a real baseball fan" (George Will is a diehard baseball fan). A conservative chooses to trash other people because they feel threatened by what they don't like: "I hate video gamers." Which is the healthier world view?
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by ismyrnow April 16, 2009 12:56 PM PDT
This comment has no basis, at all. And it has nothing to do with the article!
by djake1234 April 16, 2009 1:52 PM PDT
Read the column. He didn't say anything close to "I hate video gamers." He was lamenting the fact that (in his opinion) adults are more like big kids rather than grown-ups. Yes, it is clear that he thinks people over 18 need to grow up a little, however the tone was clearly tongue-in-cheek. Not that I agree with his argument at all, mind you.
by bil_carter April 17, 2009 8:03 AM PDT
Razzl - that makes absolutely no sense at all. Can you please find someone who speaks English as a first language to help you with your future writing assignments?
by blusky08 April 17, 2009 8:09 AM PDT
Don't misunderstand. There's nothing wrong with games/sports.
But if we want to apply logic here, one could argue that he wastes just as much time on a game (baseball) with just as little redeeming value. Seriously, what about the insanity of delusional sports fanatics spending hundreds of dollars to show up like children in their little hats and t-shirts to root for a group of strangers making millions of dollars off of them? Oh, and remember the congressional hearings over steroids in baseball? It is a form of social insanity.
Point is, games are just games, and anyone can take any game too far.
by Gladiator13 April 18, 2009 6:05 PM PDT
You've obviously got that 180 degrees out. Ad hominem attacks are the methodology of the left. Facts are never allowed to get in their way.
by seamonkey420 April 16, 2009 11:29 AM PDT
haha.. so my 70yr old ex-farming but wii-loving parents are also part of the problem? hehe.
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by umbrae April 16, 2009 11:31 AM PDT
Don't think he was breast feed long enough...
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by hanson.ianj April 17, 2009 6:58 PM PDT
Lol.. True.
by wavjockey April 16, 2009 11:34 AM PDT
Conservatives are such clueless psychos.

We should ship them all off to a remote island where they can fight the "war on terror" without bothering the rest of the world.
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by steve5200 April 16, 2009 3:14 PM PDT
How could we "clueless psychos" fight the terrorists on a remote island? The last time I checked, the terrorists were located mainly in the middle east. You sound pretty clueless yourself. Oh, I forgot, Obama will be able to make nice with the terrorists and they will go away.
by Weudel April 17, 2009 5:15 AM PDT
@steve.... Don't worry you'll still be able to find "terrorists" on your island.... A lack of actual credible threats hasn't stopped you thus far.... ooh, and there will be lots of WMDs there too!!!!! FUN!!!
by Renegade Knight April 17, 2009 7:41 AM PDT
The beauty of that plan is that the terror won't follow them to the island. But then wisdom was never a libeal strong point.
by bil_carter April 17, 2009 8:15 AM PDT
wavjockey - thanks for that comment. I love when a liberal demonstrates the "tolerance" they demand of others by saying something so ridiculous as that.

I love the way you so effectively put quotes around "war on terror". CNN and The New York Times have trained you well, young padawan.
by Weudel April 17, 2009 10:10 AM PDT
per Webster's dictionary war is:

a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations

Thus, the quotation marks around "war on terror" are correct. The last time I checked Terror was not a sovereign state, so the quotes points out the improper use of the term.

And remember, the Jedis are the good guys.... good apprentice...
by hanson.ianj April 17, 2009 7:01 PM PDT
@Weudel Nice comeback, especially with the Jedi reference in addition to the semantics lesson. If that comment were in a fistfight, it would have been a Class A slap to the face.
by Gladiator13 April 18, 2009 6:08 PM PDT
Another example of ad hominem attacks by a "lefty". He lost all credibility when he started raging instead of debating "the facts".
by unkonchus April 20, 2009 12:56 PM PDT
you know what I love? I love America. Only here can the outwardly stupid still have the right to speak freely. Consider me entertained.
by og_gta April 16, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
Exactly what i thought Pete, and this R-**** has only worn one pair or jean. Well whoop d freakin hoo. this old timer needs to quit "influencing" the public. lol.

I mean, did anybody read the article? this guy is full of it. Just wants attention...

he'll come up in Larry King Live saying, "You know what really grinds my gears? That people don't understand the analogy of Senator Ted Stevens ..."

lol, go back to school man....
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by og_gta April 16, 2009 11:54 AM PDT
Sorry, I meant George Will's actual article or column
by J_Ore April 16, 2009 12:03 PM PDT
Ridiculous argument besides, the column is terribly written. For example, take this sentence:

"In their undifferentiated dress, children and their childish parents become undifferentiated audiences for juvenilized movies (the six -- so far -- "Batman" adventures and "Indiana Jones and the Credit-Default Swaps," coming soon to a cineplex near you)."

I'm having trouble reading through the horrible syntax, and I would advise that doing so isn't really worth the trouble.
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by Dan_Ackerman April 16, 2009 12:45 PM PDT
For real kicks, you gotta check out Dana Carvey doing him on SNL many years ago. Avail on Hulu, I think.
by unkonchus April 16, 2009 12:13 PM PDT
Denim and Video games. All this time.... The true perpetrators of evil in the 21st century will be caught wearing Levi's with a PSP in their jean jacket pocket. Thank you for this vailauble insight George. I was typecasting the entirely incorrect group of fringe citizens. All this time I had been speaking out against folks wearing cargo shorts and flip flops with ipods velcroed to their arms. I'd like to take this moment to apologize to anyone in this group who has been adversely effected by a "random" cross burning ritual in their front yard or any odd egging incident. I will now direct my attention to the true scourge of our Khaki'd abacus toting America. The existence of the Marlboro Man and Super Mario will no longer be tolerated.
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by mmntech April 16, 2009 12:33 PM PDT
As both a conservative and a gamer, I think this guy is an idiot. It continues the stereotype that all conservatives are out of touch, old, bible thumping coots. It just gives more fuel for the liberal attack machine. I'm not American though but it seems to me that he should be attacking Obambi instead on the economy rather than worrying about gamers having "low moral fibre."
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by vbeast April 16, 2009 12:42 PM PDT
George Will spoke at my commencement at Georgetown in 1978, and I've never respected him since. He basically read the commentary he wrote for his Newsweek column that would appear in another week *about* the commencement *in the past tense* as if the day had already happened! Nothing for or about us--It was all about him. Before then, I might not agree with him, but I respected him. Not after that. It sums up for me an example of his intellectual laziness.
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by MrRetardo April 16, 2009 1:28 PM PDT
This guy is definitely WRONG!!! I dont wear JEANS when I'm gaming!!! I wear pajama pants!!! :P
I wear jeans when I take your daughter out on a date to Lookout Point! :)
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by Nick.Kentros April 16, 2009 1:33 PM PDT
Uhh...what?

Well it's a good thing I didn't vote in this past election...not that I wasn't of age, I was, but I think it's my right to not vote
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by steve5200 April 16, 2009 3:07 PM PDT
Sad that you live here in our great nation and feel that way. Do you realize how immature you sound? Would you rather live in Cuba and not have any freedom at all?
by blusky08 April 18, 2009 7:28 AM PDT
First, it's not clear that the votes aren't rigged by "the powers that be."
Second, one could argue that Nick's conscience is clean. It is just as valid a statement to protest the vote given the sorry state of our political system.
by Gladiator13 April 18, 2009 6:13 PM PDT
...and you shouldn't vote. People without a clue or a feeling of "responsibility" generally end up voting for free cigarettes in Milwaukee, WI; and we definitely don't want any more of them.
by moretroops April 16, 2009 1:45 PM PDT
The Republican party is a party of old white people, mostly in the South. Being white and from the South myself, this is doubly painful.
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by ajalogan April 16, 2009 1:50 PM PDT
wait... who is he again?
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by leifur3 April 16, 2009 1:52 PM PDT
people like him make me glad i call myself a liberal
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