March 6, 2009 3:23 PM PST

Is the Beatles Rock Band game too late?

by Dan Ackerman
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The long-buzzed-about Beatles video game, from the creators of the Rock Band franchise, made news this past week with some pricing details and an official release date. The Beatles: Rock Band, coming September 9, 2009, will be available as a $59 stand-alone game, a $99 bundle with a guitar, and a $249 bundle which also includes a drum kit.

While this is about as big a coup as a video game publisher could hope for, and we'll be the first in line to jam along with "Hey Bulldog" (which will hopefully be included), there's still reason to be concerned that as long-time holdouts to any form of digital distribution, the Beatles are showing up too late to make a real splash.

The most important factor is that consumers may have already reached a saturation point in terms of music rhythm games. We're on the fourth generation of guitar-bundled music games such as Guitar Hero and Rock Band, and the second generation of the full drum/guitar/microphone versions. Even though both franchises continue to be popular, they're not selling as quickly as they used to--after all, once you have one set of plastic drums and guitars--do you really need another?

Viacom recently saw, "lower sales of Rock Band than we originally hoped," and Activision says sales of Guitar Hero games are down 22 percent year-over-year. When we visited a local Circuit City to check out its liquidation sale, one of the most striking images was the stacks and stacks of discounted, but unsold, music games.

Also worth considering is that the Beatles (and their heirs and business partners) have largely sat out the most recent trends in music distribution, ignoring digital download opportunities such as iTunes and the Amazon MP3 store.

While surely gaining new young fans every day, this is still a band that broke up in 1970. Other longtime MP3 holdouts include Metallica (now available on iTunes) and AC/DC, but both those bands have continued to tour and release new material--and both have already climbed on the guitar game bandwagon. By keeping the music in the walled garden of physical CD sales for so long, there may be an entire generation of digital natives (a key video game demographic) that have missed out that particular Magical Mystery Tour.

New York native Dan Ackerman, a former radio DJ turned journalist, has written about technology and music for publications including Spin, Blender, The Hollywood Reporter, and USA Today. He hosts the weekly Digital City podcast and the New York edition of Editors' Office Hours. Dan's new album, Tales Out of Night School, is available now. E-mail Dan.
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by mattwho March 6, 2009 4:13 PM PST
It's The Beatles! Their even hot in Vegas!
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by DJOmega6 March 6, 2009 5:14 PM PST
If this were any other band, I would agree due to the oversaturation of music games. However, the Beatles are the Beatles, and this game will sell.
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by dryingtoys March 6, 2009 5:39 PM PST
You're underestimating the Beatles popularity.

Despite not recording for forty years and despite not having their songs available on itunes, they're still popular among the MP3 crowd.

For example, according to tracking site last.fm, the Beatles are the most played band among their users. Their songs have been played 151,587,997 times, slightly more than Radiohead and way ahead of Coldplay--two bands STILL RELEASING NEW MUSIC.

http://www.last.fm/music

"One," an album of number one hits released this millennium, has sold over 40 million copies worldwide. Again, without the help of digital distribution.
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by ZetaZeta_ March 6, 2009 5:43 PM PST
Buy out Circuit City and sell on ebay?
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by Mosephus March 6, 2009 6:09 PM PST
This is not some random group "that broke up in 1970". This is the biggest pop group in the history of the planet. This is a group that has sold 600 million albums worldwide despite being together for all of eight years, and playing live exactly once during the last four. This is a band that had 27 #1 hits. 27!!!

It will depend on the how well the game turns out, but this may be the game that takes the Music Game to the next level. Just the promo shot from the inside of Abbey Road studios gives one hope. I predict it will bring a new gamut of fans to the genre from outside the gaming community.

The Beatles aren't late to the table. They are the table.
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by thewalrusspeaks March 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT
You are wise Mosephus. The Table Is On Its Way

and all that !
by chrizzb March 7, 2009 2:38 AM PST
I have to agree with all the posts. At the moment the only music games I have are the Singstars, but I think i might seriously consider getting an Xbox 360 just for this.

More than introducing youngsters to the great music of the 60's, I wouldnt be supprised if this game helped introduce allot of older, non gamers to the world of interactive musical entertainment. It's gonna Rock the Flock, no doubt :)
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by stigmattaman March 7, 2009 8:22 AM PST
You do make some fine points Dan, but like the other commenters say: it's the frigging Beatles. This will draw in those parents who have been too old to "get" the rhythm games, the hipsters, and the young. Hell, I've avoided buying any of these games, but I'll probably have to shell out for the Beatles.
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by fiman16 March 7, 2009 10:22 AM PST
one of the biggest humps that people have not been able to get over is the fact that they simply do not know the songs included in these Rock Band/ Guitar Hero game well enough. To be able to play your favorite songs all in one game is a dream come true for many people, and this game is going to prove that the majority of users who have stayed clear of music games will jump on the bandwagon as long as the content delivers.
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by beatmoses March 7, 2009 3:12 PM PST
I want this and I don't even play games. My teenage son can't wait. BUT in reality JUST GET ME THE FRIGGEN REMASTERED CDS FIRST. Crap its been 23 years since they were original released and they sound like CRAP.
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by lookinforLCD March 7, 2009 3:28 PM PST
Way too pessimistic. My wife , who doesnt know a PS3 from an Xbox already is on some waiting list.
I bet we'll play the thing twice a year, but it WILL be here....I agree though, the Beatles principles seem to lag trendy pop culture, but the juggernaut that is the Beatles cares not.
Late to the party, but they Are the party. Catch 22?
LFLCD
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by bigpicture March 7, 2009 3:52 PM PST
A generation has gone by here, the Beatles were my era, and no question they produced some classic rock music. But I'm not a gamer, and I don't suppose to many of my era are. I don't know if the gamer generation would be really hot on the Beatles since they have been out of the limelight for so long. But then some music just might transcend generations.
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by TJ Spyke March 7, 2009 4:43 PM PST
At $250 for the full set and $60 for the game (even the Wii version), I hope this version bombs. Every version of Guitar Hero and Rock Band as gotten more and more expensive. I have no doubt that part of the reason this set (which does not interest me in the slightest since I am not a Beatles fan) is so much more expensive is because Apple Corp. probably was greedy and charged an arm and a leg for the rights to the songs and MTV Games is passing that cost on to consumers.

Even if this was a band I liked, no way could I ever consider $250 to be anything more than a rip-off and that will turn off a lot of potential consumers.
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by ZukinLWW March 7, 2009 8:39 PM PST
TJ? I work in video game retail, and let me let you in on a little secret.

90% of games today are 60 bucks brand new. The Wii version being 60 surprises me A LITTLE, but that's actually the going rate of PS3 and 360 games.

As far as the 250 price point for the whole pack? It's that because there's two guitars. 190 (bundle of drums, guitar, mic, and game) + 60 (second guitar) = 250. They could, by rights, charge more. Let's break it down: 1 guitar = $60, $60 X 2 = $120, + Drums ($80-$100) = $200 - $220 (We'll go with $200 for the sake of argument), + Microphone ($30) = $230, + Game ($60) = a whopping $280. They're also doing something NO OTHER Rock Band set has and releasing the game with just the guitars for cheaper. Also, all the instruments in the game will be "The Beatles: Rock Band" branded and if you don't need the Beatles branded stuff, those of us who have bought previous Rock Bands will be able to use all the old instruments with the 60 dollar basic game. It's really not all that crazy if you break it down into component bits.
by tideisturning March 8, 2009 10:11 AM PDT
the beatles are highly popular. im sure many, many fans will still go out and get this game. personally, im so excited to get it. the other guitar heroes and rock bands not being sold shouldnt affect the way the ebatles game is going to sell. why? becasue those games are not beatles related. anything with the APPLE name attached to it will sell easily. thats just my opinion though.
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by TJ Spyke March 8, 2009 10:27 AM PDT
Apple Corp. (the company that owns the Beatles license) is not the same as Apple Inc. (the company that overcharges for it's electronics).

Zukin, I know that most PS3 and Xbox 360 games are $60. But most Wii games are $50. Also, no matter how you try and rationalize it $250 is overpriced. Just because they overcharged for previous sets ($190 was ridiculous for Rock Band 2) doesn't justify charging even more for this. I think there is a reason the Wii versions of Guitar Hero and Rock Band outsell the others: it's cheaper in price (that and the fact that the Wii is selling a ton of systems and is the undisputed leader this gen).
by abundantsnotbob March 8, 2009 1:42 PM PDT
I heard that Apple records tries to sue Apple inc. for using the same name as them. It was decided that Apple inc. could keep the name as long as they never went into the music business. What's iTunes?
by Shaun822 March 8, 2009 2:43 PM PDT
abundantsnotbob:

The original settlement was that Apple Inc. owned the trademark rights to anything electronic and Apple Corp owned the trademark with relation to musical content and physical musical media. Then Apple Inc included musically sounding stuff in the Apple II and Apple Corp sued, and won. Then Apple Inc introduced iTunes and Apple Corp sued and lost big. The English high court ruled that iTunes was a digital distribution service and not musical content, that Apple Inc was only providing a means for digital music to be distributed and ordered Apple Corp to pay the roughly 2 million dollars in legal fees to Apple Inc.

After that Apple Corp and Apple Inc settled the case. Since then they have come to an agreement that Apple Inc can use the Apple logo for basically whatever, except they licensed Apple Corp the exclusive use of Apple and the granny smith apple for musical content, physical music media, etc. and now they get along apparently.

link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v._Apple_Computer
by sting7k March 8, 2009 1:11 PM PDT
I think the market is saturated. As shown by the fact that pretty much the only item that Circuit City had in stock (my local store) was hundreds upon hundreds of guitars for guitar hero/rock band. During the last week of the closing sale they had them marked down to $12 a piece.
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by vagreville March 8, 2009 4:44 PM PDT
You know what? I've never been interested in ANY of the Guitar Hero or Rock Band games. But this one, I'm buying. My wife and I are both excited about it. I'll just say it again, it's the Beatles!
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by RRosal March 9, 2009 4:58 AM PDT
Methinks Dan Ackerman failed to notice two very important things associated with his piece: 1) the economy is not doing so great so the interest in ANY high-priced items will be low and 2) Circuit City's discounts were no better than a same-day discount/sale on the same games at the next-door Best Buy or even Gamestop. Once again, speculation/predictions based on information that is at best spotty.

As for the Beatles game, I'm good for the $59 stand-alone. Already have the instruments from Rock Band 1/2 so the accessories are a moot point.
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by Donniebrasco March 9, 2009 6:30 AM PDT
I will probably buy it. I've already sunk enough money into the RB2 set and I would much rather play Beatles songs all day than have to play some of the awful songs on RB2. Not saying they are all awful, but maybe I am too old and set in my ways at 26 to appreciate the Donnas, Panic at the Disco or Jimmy Eat World. Judas Priest "Painkiller" being included did impress me though.
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by not2worried March 9, 2009 8:21 AM PDT
I like the Beatles.. but $60 for this seems to high..$30-40.. I'll bite on that price..
But thats just me...
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by Alba-tross March 9, 2009 9:18 AM PDT
I think the question here should be: Does their music hold up?
Yes. It doesn't matter how long ago they broke up. I don't think many younger people playing RB or GH know all the artists of the songs represented. If the songs are good and easy to play, then they will be successful.
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by W1gglesnarf March 9, 2009 2:38 PM PDT
Beetles = not great to my personal taste, but I know a ton of people who have been waiting and drooling at the possibility for them to be released in a game enviorment. Im sure it will sell just fine.
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