January 15, 2009 11:49 AM PST

Test drive: Windows 7 on a Netbook

by Dan Ackerman
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Still semijetlagged from Las Vegas, one of the very first items on our to-do list was to install the now widely available Windows 7 beta on a Netbook.

From off-the-record conversations with PC makers during CES, we heard that Windows 7 played well with systems powered by Intel's Atom CPU--which is something we generally can't say about Vista. (Although it's also worth noting that Vista, while making for a somewhat sluggish user experience, actually performed reasonably well in benchmark testing on Sony's new Vaio Lifestyle PC minilaptop, which combines an Atom with a more appropriate 2GB of RAM.)

We quickly installed the 32-bit version of Windows 7 on a typical Netbook. The installation went smoothly, and the OS seemed to run well at first glance, but our wireless card wasn't detected initially. We eventually got that sorted out, and ran our iTunes benchmark test for a quick speed comparison (our test system had an Intel Atom CPU, 1GB of RAM, and an 80GB 5,400rpm HDD).

As the iTunes test is CPU focused, we weren't totally surprised to find similar scores, with XP completing the test in 743 seconds, and both Vista (with graphics options set for Vista Basic) and the Windows 7 beta hitting 760 seconds. (Note: lower scores indicate better results.)

While our quick benchmark testing did not show a Win 7 advantage, we can say that in anecdotal use, the Windows 7 interface responded quicker and hung less frequently than Vista, where just opening the Start Menu or My Documents folder can be a slog. We're cooking up some additional tests right now, and will report their results shortly.

It remains to be seen if Windows 7 is really a viable candidate for Netbooks (although Microsoft is purportedly working on a Netbook-specific build of the new OS), but if it is, this may finally give Microsoft the excuse it needs to retire the long-serving XP operating system. In the slide show below, you can see some photos of Windows 7 up and running on our test Netbook.

New York native Dan Ackerman, a former radio DJ turned journalist, has written about technology and music for publications including Spin, Blender, The Hollywood Reporter, and USA Today. He hosts the weekly Digital City podcast and the New York edition of Editors' Office Hours. Dan's new album, Tales Out of Night School, is available now. E-mail Dan.

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by Tedders85 January 15, 2009 12:10 PM PST
I am really thinking of doing this on my Asus 900HA. Couple questions... what problems did you have with the wireless and how much memory do you have in that MSI Wind?
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by Tedders85 January 15, 2009 12:11 PM PST
Nevermind, I see that you had 1gb of memory. The wireless question still stands however...
by ace10134 January 16, 2009 12:56 PM PST
WiFi drivers should work out of the box, but since it's still a beta, not all hardware makers have created the drivers for Windows 7, so you have to download a Windows Vista or even XP driver for your card.

I recommend first downloading the WiFi driver for your card while you still have XP or Vista running on your laptop, and then install Windows 7. That way, if your WiFi card doesn't install the driver, you can just plug in your flash drive with the driver and install it from there. Or if you have another PC in the house, you could just download the driver from that one.

By the way, Windows 7 is faster, mainly in startup and shutdown, and I think you'll like the changes.

Hope it all goes well!
Andrew
by coreyh01 January 15, 2009 1:20 PM PST
Win 7 screams on my Lenovo S10 netbook 2gb DDR2.
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by magvine January 15, 2009 1:24 PM PST
I have an AcerOne, with 1.6 atom, 1 gig ram and plenty of video memory (can't think of the exact spec right now). I, too, installed the beta on it. I have had little trouble with it, and for running office and transfering files I like Win 7 better than XP. I also had the problem of the WiFi card. I can only shut my computer down, not restart it (if i restart it then on reboot Win 7 doesn't notice the card).

Overall it works nice, and boots faster than XP. I think the beta doesn't handle networking cards (wifi or lan) very well (I have the beta on a desktop and now it confuses my lan card for a wifi card.). Also, the gadget system is bugged. It broke on both of my machines, and I cannnot seem to fix it and turn it back on.

Once Microsoft fixes these issues, Win 7 will be very nice.
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by comsprt January 16, 2009 8:06 AM PST
I insatlled win 7 on the same system, had the same problem with the internal wifi card but after running windows update several times a new driver for the atheros wifi card showed up and since then it works flawlessly. Hang in there and do the updates, it should be ok. The internal lan card worked from the start, even installed a usb wifi and that worked too.
by knissaj January 15, 2009 2:13 PM PST
I'm running Win7 on a EEE 1000H with 2gig of RAM. Installation was like butter. Runs great. A tiny bit laggy and sluggish but more annoyance than actual problem (I mean really, were we expecting it to scream on a netbook? I think not). The only two problems I've actually had were the wireless issue (which simply required installing the Ralink drivers from their site) and the fact the FN & user defined keys do not work. Again though, more annoyance than actual problem. Gadgets will be fun to play with but with so little screen space it's a little tough. IMO, huge, huge improvement over XP and Vista.
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by Stardude82 January 15, 2009 2:23 PM PST
Driver's I think are a small issue and really can't be MS's problem. Though, I don't think it could hurt them to come up with an improved 2000/XP driver wrapper scheme.

The question is: Will they make it run with 2 GB of hard drive space or less?
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by knissaj January 15, 2009 2:47 PM PST
I agree with you on the drivers. And with the wireless, it's just that they don't happen to package that one specific driver with the downloaded iso. Super easy fix/install of the driver from the site on the EEE. I imagine if they have a netbook flavor of Win7 or even just on the final release DVD they could easily have the drivers available.
by pbdude123 January 15, 2009 3:35 PM PST
Linux would have automatically detected all the hardware with no need to instlall drivers. Why can't Windows do that? Driver incompatibility is my biggest complaint with Vista. it looks like Windows 7 Beta has the same problem.
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by ZetaZeta_ January 16, 2009 12:55 AM PST
It does automatically detect. It's just that the drivers weren't on the DVD.
by davidsmi January 19, 2009 7:43 AM PST
and since it was the network driver, it can't go to the network to find the driver.
by mikeburek January 19, 2009 8:03 PM PST
Go back just 4 years and Linux would not have detected it and Win XP would have. I like Linux, but your claim is unsubstantiated. What hardware do you use with Linux that is not usable on Vista?
by kentcountycomputer January 16, 2009 5:21 AM PST
Hello,

We are running Windows 7 Ultimate on a Acer Aspire Netbook..
It has a 1.6 GHZ ATOM CPU, 80 GIG HD, 1 gig of Ram...
I have to say we are very impressed. I would recommend though 2 gigs of ram. WIndows 7 holds about 500 megs of ram. Much better then Vista's 800 plus megs...
It boots in about 40 seconds...
Networking is easy on it...it creates something called a homegroup...finds printers connected to the network instantly without any configuring...
All in all...seems much less of a resource hog then vista....and much more stable and better for networking...
Our company does a lot of work with residental users and i can see the benefits right off the bat as many clients of ours love wireless printers and file sharing. Windows 7 seems to really shine there.
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by dharkness82 January 16, 2009 7:13 AM PST
I have the Windows 7 Beta running on my HP 2133 Mini Note, which has a single core Via C7 Processor running at 1 Ghz and only 1 GB of memory. I am actually typing this comment on it and boy was I shocked to find it works very well. All drivers loaded right out of the gates and no monkeying around needed at all...it just worked. Right now the gauge shows only 38% of the processor being utilized and 44% of the memory. I would have never attempted a Vista install on this baby but if this is a testament of what Windows 7 is going to bring I am excited about it. New version of windows on a netbook makes me think I can actually load Windows 7 in our environment at work, where we are still 100% WIndows XP.
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by BigK7304 January 16, 2009 7:54 AM PST
I installed it on my Asus PC1000HD Netbook on Wednesday, now this is a $350 netbook and it is running the newest operating system from window. I have had a couple of problems with AIM so I am using Pidgin but other then that it is running like a dream. I am running office ultimate on it as well and having zero problems. I also decided to run Firefox as my main browser and 7 is recognizing all of the ad dons that I have done so far. So taking all this into perspective and comparing it to the previous operating systems that Microsoft has put out I am giving it a 4 out of 5.

BigK
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by yesmac January 16, 2009 10:07 AM PST
mac all the way
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by lazy-bum January 16, 2009 10:56 AM PST
very clever
by mikeburek January 19, 2009 8:04 PM PST
Glad that you aren't even going to try something new. Way to improve yourself.
by daa2 January 16, 2009 11:27 AM PST
I just installed Win7 on a Dell D600, Pentium M 1.6 Ghz with 512Mb RAM. I haven't had the chance to play too, much yet but so far so good. I never used Vista so I can't compare but things seems to run as well as the XP set up that used to be on the laptop prior to Ubuntu. 8.04
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by emancipated January 16, 2009 11:36 AM PST
Netbooks, small portables, whatever, screen size blah blah blah. I really like the concept of being smaller, dislike carrying large items.

Most of what I see is normal portables for people in public (airports, starbucks, ...), not netbooks. I try to ask the people with Netbooks(?) what are they using ( XP or linux) I have never seen a linux netbook in a public place, other than at a retail store where the netbook looked abused. Somehow, it makes me think that when CNET sends out the email "newsletter" (?) it is somewhat like the National Enguirer, trying to make a story out of something.

Look forward to seeing more Netbooks, that being said, the only time I really bring a portable, I need a database with me, so ... thinking the next one might be a 14" with Vista short-term, or Windows 7. Back to real life, ...
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by patmcclung January 16, 2009 11:49 AM PST
I suggest you forget about Windows and install Fedora 10 on your Netbook. Works great, see December issue of LinuxFormat magazine. Or UBUNTU 8.2 if you must. I have four computers that can boot Windows and I use it less than once a month.

Using Windows is so much less advanced than Linux in every respect it defies all my rational powers to understand why anyone would voluntarily use Windows (if they had a choice). Not only is the operating system much better, there are over 8,000 excellent open source applications.

Using Windows is physically painful for me, it's so bad.
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by January 16, 2009 12:32 PM PST
physically painful !!!! gee
by bowacl January 16, 2009 8:08 PM PST
Oddly most of those free open source applicaitons I can also use on my Windows machine. I don't find it to be painful at all - and yes I have tried Ubuntu.
by agnosticgeek September 20, 2009 9:54 AM PDT
Wish I had your Linux chops! I'm shopping for a Win7 netbook because my old Linux Acer 701 EeePC won't install any updates at all. Can't update the browser, anti-virus, nada. It was fun for a couple of years, but it is now a doorstop. If I had Win OS, I'm sure I'd be able to update it. I'm not a programmer, just an end-user.

As for Macs, their hypnotic marketing doesn't really grab me. Apple is a huge multinational corporation just like Microsoft, They have successfully convinced consumers to pay more for comparable computing power.

I just want my electronic devices to be affordable and functional.
by encycloman January 16, 2009 12:42 PM PST
I have installed Windows 7 on my ASUS laptop. Seems to work OK, but I cannot get the screen size generated by 7 to fit my screen, and the answer eludes me for now...tried everything "normal" to get the size to enlarge. For now, I need a magnifying glass to read the screen!
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by wiredchicken January 16, 2009 1:23 PM PST
Why dont they finish the new operating system and release it next month. Is this Windows 7 Beta software good at this point where it can be used daily (work, gaming, etc)????
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by reddunefilms January 16, 2009 2:12 PM PST
How can these stupid writers make speed comparisons and assesments on an unfinished Beta of Windows 7? Geez.....

For the record I have it running on a Dell XPS 630i Quad Core with 4 GB ram, dual nVidia SLI 9800GT video cards, X-Fi ExtremeGamer audio and 2 x 700GB hard drives and it is using much less resources and the interface is snappier than Vista. It installed in approx 25 minutes and I have boot times under 25 seconds. Not a single problem with drivers or software compatibility.

Just for fun I installed it on a 5 year old Toshiba Tablet PC and the same on a 5 year old Dell 8300N desktop PC and both installed in less than 25 minutes and I didn't have a singlew problem with drivers. Both boot in around 26 seconds and use way less resources than Vista.
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by timtedtomtod January 16, 2009 4:47 PM PST
I'm running windows 7 on my dell mini 9 (with 2GB generic RAM) and its running excellent.
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by gymnasia96 March 31, 2009 9:26 PM PDT
How did you install Windows 7 on the Dell mini 9?
by EscapePod January 16, 2009 8:10 PM PST
The folks at TechWareLabs tested four of the MSI Winds -- added an additional 1GB of RAM, and loaded Vista on three of the netbooks. They reported flawless operation with Vista, and noticeably better performance than XP. So, it seems logical that Win 7 should run better than either XP or Vista.

http://www.techwarelabs.com/reviews/notebooks/MSI_Wind/
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by bowacl January 16, 2009 8:15 PM PST
I'm not having any problems with it on my $399 2 yr old Gateway laptop. It's Dual Core T2310 1.46 GHz, 2gig ram, 120 HD. I haven't turned any of the fancy stuff off yet. I have started piling on my apps now so will see how it goes since I have a ton I use for work and home. I too had wireless driver problem but hooked it to cat5 when it said did I want to install the driver and it downloaded and installed with in mins and the wireless was up and running and I unplugged the cat5. I have to figure out the Homegroup now so I can install some apps from another computer here.
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by jpblock82 January 16, 2009 10:03 PM PST
I've installed Win7 on my Dell Mini 9. 16GB STEC (OEM) SSD, running 2GB RAM. I have to say, I'm in love :) I had to install a few drivers (Jmicron for the SD slot, and Synaptics touchpad). After install the brightness slider in power options was buggy (would bounce side to side). I installed a BIOS update and this fixed the problem. I'm running Chrome, and have only installed Flash, Java, Foxit Reader (adobe reader sucks!), and Avast Free. No productivity suite installed, (Google Docs Rocks!) and have no files saved on the SSD, got an 8GB SDHC for that. The 16GB SSD shows 6.97 free of the 14.3GB available. I'm very impressed with this beta and look forward to the final release. I hate Vista, so this a welcomed changed. Keep it up MS.
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by gymnasia96 March 31, 2009 9:29 PM PDT
How did you install Windows 7 on to the Dell mini 9?
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