November 5, 2009 1:57 PM PST

The Real Deal 186: Essential software for a new PC (or Mac)

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Tom and Rafe discuss the apps they put on first thing when they get a new computer.

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Episode 186

Download.com starter kits:

Windows:
http://download.cnet.com/8001/2701-19409_4-2-1.html
windows security:
http://download.cnet.com/2701-2023_4-6-1.html
mac:
http://download.cnet.com/2701-19406_4-4.html

And of course, NiNite – http://ninite.com/

Tom’s picks (Won’t read all of them, just a few favorites and then refer to the show notes for complete list):

VLC
Open Office
Sea Monkey – or Firefox/Thunderbird/FileZilla/XChat (Colloquy)
AVG Antivirus
Hijack This
Pidgin/Adium
Paint.NET
iTunes
Audacity
CCleaner
Skype

Rafe’s picks
PC–
Microsoft Security Essentials
Process Explorer
Foxit PDF reader
CCleaner
Paint.net
Picasa
Pidgin
SugarSync
Roboform
VLC
WinDirStat
(plus the usual: Apps like Office/OpenOffice, Evernote, etc)
Techtracker

Mac–
Witch – Win-like task switcher
SugarSync
Skitch
Adium
DiskInventoryX
Precipitate – puts google doc results in spotlight
Multiclutch – more trackpad gestures

LISTENER PICKS

Google Earth (for Linux) -dpeach

uTorrent (Vista) -Hardus

Backup Chunker (Vista) -Hardus

SyncBack

Glary Utilities (Vista) -Hardus

Fences (Windows ) – Sang

Tweetdeck – Andrew

Path Finder http://cocoatech.com/ (Mac) – Obada

Rightzoom http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/30591 (Mac) – Obada

Default Folder X http://www.stclairsoft.com/DefaultFolderX/ (Mac) – Obada

Quicksilver (Mac) – Sang

EMAIL QUESTIONS

Tom and Rafe,

I know you are doing an episode on useful software for a new computer. I’m wondering if you know of a good Hard Drive Visualizer for the MAC?

Those programs are super useful for tracking down and deleting files that are just clutter and hard to find. I’ve used a couple, but they are unstable and crash frequently.

Robinson A

Answer: Disk Inventory X! http://www.derlien.com/
for PC: WinDirStat

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Tom & Rafe:

I just upgraded to Windows 7 from Windows XP. Under XP, I used Nero for burning CDs and DVDs. The version that I had (v 6.x) does not work under Windows 7, and I don't want to pay $50 for an upgrade of Nero. Can you recommend a good alternative CD/DVD copying/burning tool for Windows 7?

Thanks, love the show!

Hank
From Peoria Arizona (and the chatroom)

Answer: Yes. Windows 7! (CDBurnerXP, Magic ISO also good)

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Hello Tom,

I just installed Acronis True Image, because I want to try something that might severely mess up my machine. So as a precautionary measure I plan to use Acronis to make sure I have something to fall back on incase what I try blows up in my face. I see Acronis has a ?back up and restore? feature that ?backs up files, folders, app settings, email accounts or the entire hard disk?. The software also has an option under ?disk utilities? that lets me clone the disk. What should I do? I plan to do one of those options to an external drive but not sue which one is best for my situation. Any answer is much appreciated. I listen to Buzz out Loud everyday, as well as The Real Deal every week and I ?love the shows?

Thanks so much and have a great day,
Alex the Graphic Designer from NH

Answer: Both backup solutions have their place. In general, and with a lot of exceptions, Cloned drives are great for recovering a disk if you have a hardware failure, and file backup is great for recovering data if you have a user failure (you erase a file). Personally, I do both, even though you can in some cases do file recovery from a clone.

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COMMENTS

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Hey Tom and Rafe, not sure if you already found/figured this out, but I just tested hibernating my vista laptop without a battery like someone had done with their mac. Lo and behold, it works. It’s not the fastest thing in the world, but it does appear save the harddrive to RAM allowing a complete power disconnect. I don’t know how long it can suspend the harddrive on the RAM, but score one for windows.

Love your show,
JoshuaCaleb

P.S. for all the listeners out there, you have to put the computer in “hibernate” not “sleep”. When in ’sleep’, the computer will eventually go into hibernate and I think you can alter the hibernate settings as well. Anyway, that’s my nickel and two cents.

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Tom -
On Real Deal Ep 184 you read an email from a guy with a fried XP drive
that wanted to upgrade to 7, but didn’t have his key. this actually
happened to me, but I did have the original XP drive. Someone
suggested I call Microsoft (yeah, right…) and on a whim i did. The
guy on the phone (lovely gentleman from India who was concise,
pleasant and knowledgeable) told me to read the characters printed
around the rim of the hole in the CD. I’d never noticed those numbers
before but I read them off and in about 20 seconds he told me my
product key!

Now the thing that really blew me away was that he asked if he could
stay online with me while I ran the XP install so he could be sure I
was taken care of!

Or maybe I dreamt that, it sounds too good to be true, doesn’t it?

Allison Sheridan
NosillaCast Podcast

Now live Thursdays at 4 PM Eastern / 1 PM Pacific on http://live.cnet.com/ Call live! 888-900-2638 (CNET)

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by hafenbrack November 5, 2009 2:16 PM PST
I have some similar experiences as Allison Sheridan with MS when on the phone. I was very impressed that MS was willing to and was actually taking care of it's customers. Thanks again Microsoft.

Nathan
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by olssontheviking November 5, 2009 8:36 PM PST
Great list guys !! But how can ANYONE live without the absolutely incredibly good (and weird-named) IrfanView for windows ??!! It's like having a free version of Photoshop - almost :-) But, seriously, this is what Paint should have been all along if Microsoft had any idea of what they were doing with image display and manipulation.. Add Irfanview to your list and it will be complete!
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by shakethebabyass November 8, 2009 1:34 AM PST
The first things I MUST do after installing Windows:
1. Remove the huge shortcut arrows.. maybe I'm just OCD but they get on my nerves so bad. I use either fx visor or tuneup utilities to do this.

2. I always change the look of my logon screen with logon studio.

3. Norton 360 of course.

4. SpySweeper.

5. Windows Live Mail Client.
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by devendrakumarkishore November 8, 2009 2:02 AM PST
I am highly thankfull for providing the usefull and latest information. it is not only helpfull but keep me updated also.
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by s0_steeg November 8, 2009 5:31 AM PST
Here's my list!

1. Kaspersky IS 2010 (illegal download so it is free)
2. uTorrent (lightweight)
3. Mozilla (awesome addons)
4. Winrar
5. Advanced System Care 3
6. Paint.NET
7. iTunes
8. klmcodec
9. Smart Defrag
10. Revo Uninstaller
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by pyarajahan November 8, 2009 6:48 AM PST
superb
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by jano_rajmond November 8, 2009 10:20 AM PST
I personally prefer GOM Player (gomlabs.com) as a media player. It can open almost anything that VLC can and it has a much nicer GUI. Also, if you need a codec, it will automatically take you to the codec download.

(They also had an exceptional video converter, for free, which they are now charging for. A pitty!)
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by rrusson November 8, 2009 5:20 PM PST
I've got to second what olssontheviking said; IrfanView is indispensable freeware. It's got an incredibly small footprint, loads pictures like lightning (unlike the default photo viewer in Windows), and handles over 90% of my image manipulation needs (Photoshop fills in the other 10%). Anything this fast and powerful needs to be on your list.
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by cray1177 November 8, 2009 10:20 PM PST
it is interesting software. I can create any dicumentition as i want
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by jdgatienau November 8, 2009 11:11 PM PST
I wonder why you always include ccleaner, I tried installed it and deleted it 10 times because you say it is so good,. Each time I run it it delete the files my programs needs then my software don't work anymore, I need to re download again, each time it deleted necessary file and broke my system. I have other program now like pc matic it cleans all but never touch a file that can be used by a program so where is ccleaner so good, I brooke my system each time by deleting my programs files.

Jean duhamel
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by skylamer November 9, 2009 5:23 AM PST
uTorrent
CCleaner
Tuneup utilities
IrfanView
Mozilla Firefox
Paint.Net
Auslogics Boost Speed Up
CPU-Z
GPU-Z
K-Lite Codec Pack
Everest
Revo Uninstaller
UltraDefrag
Skype
mIRC
Foxit PDF Reader
WinRAR
Daemon Tools

and all updates that's the 1st thingssssss
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by tmcsparron November 9, 2009 12:17 PM PST
How about two utilities I couldn't live without (windows)
1. Executor (Program launcher)
2. Everything (file search engine)

also Evernote
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by wirelesscaller November 9, 2009 12:27 PM PST
Security: Avast Home, IObit Security 360, Peerguardian, Truecrypt, Wubi (dual boot Ubuntu), and Malware Anti-Malware.

Utilities: Revo Uninstaller, Advanced System Care, Auslogic Disk Defrag, and CCleaner.

Misc: Extract Portableapps to hard drive create a shortcut on the desktop, add vlc, putty, Avast, seamonkey, 7zip, eraser, filezilla, gimp, miranda im, sumatra pdf, teamviewer, and utorrent. Copy back/forth to sync usb pendrive.
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by susandennis November 9, 2009 3:50 PM PST
great show! thank you. FYI - I have never had any luck using Foxit to print off PDF labels from the USPS website. Their app won't work unless you have the Adobe reader. PIA. But still easier than getting dressed and hauling ass over to the post office.
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by danyel_C2001 November 9, 2009 4:19 PM PST
i'm the only one who can't hear anything from 13-15 minutes of viewing to the end of you're presentation?i prefer to down and i play it whit bsplayer pro v2x
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by joealanb November 11, 2009 7:15 AM PST
I loved these lists;. awesome stuff!!. Do you have a similar list for a fresh install of Ubuntu? Tom; Hail to the Orang, Hail to the blue!! Thanks to both of you for a great, practical show!!
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