October 6, 2009 10:37 AM PDT

On Call: Really, I mean it: Welcome, iPhone, to 2003

by Kent German
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Welcome, iPhone, to 2003

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On September 25, AT&T finally activated multimedia messaging for the iPhone. The long-awaited features caused great excitement for AT&T iPhone users, primarily because they had gone so long without it. Even worse, they had to watch while their counterparts in other countries could use MMS immediately after they got iPhone 3.0.

When the MMS update went live shortly before noon Pacific time, I posted a quick blog announcing that users could now send their first multimedia message. The blog stuck mostly to the facts, but I decided to end it by welcoming the AT&T iPhone "to 2003." And that's where the fun began.

I soon received e-mails and blog comments from CNET readers who disagreed with my salutation. Some were polite, and some weren't, but all felt that I had overlooked the iPhone's other strengths while bemoaning its late arrival to the MMS party. Here's a sampling.

LOL. Hey Kent, what do you mean by "Welcome, iPhone, to 2003?" Why is that people think the iPhone is behind by not doing MMS? Other phones can do MMS, but are way behind cause they can't do email! The first MMS was sent out in 2002, the first e-mail in the mid 1960's! Somebody please explain. - mritalian76

OK, I read all these comments from people who sarcastically proclaim the iPhone having caught up with 2003. On the other hand, Apple did make some nice enhancements to MMS. For most people, "MMS" simply means photo messaging, but on the iPhone you can send audio files, contact cards, and map locations.
- KingKuei

I know it has already been said in the comments, but I think it is worth repeating. The iPhone, unlike most phones "from 2003," can use MMS to send more than pictures. You can send contacts, videos on the 3Gs, and mapping info from the Google maps app.
- dandy1117

Yeah, it's real sad [that the iPhone is just getting MMS] when you consider that other phones can only send/receive MMS, but not email and stuff like that.
- Perry_Clease

I'll readily agree that the iPhone does many things well and it offers some experiences that aren't available on many other phones. But even with those strengths, it lagged behind almost every other cell phone on the planet by not offering a basic mobile feature for the first two years of its existence. MMS is a basic feature, but full-fledged e-mail is not. What's more, though the problem was AT&T's, the carrier's strengths and limitations are an integral part of the cell phone user experience.

So, seriously, in this case I can't make excuses. The iPhone should have had MMS from the start, and AT&T customers shouldn't have had to wait when iPhone users in other countries got it.

Kent German is a senior editor for cell phone reviews at CNET. When he's not testing the newest handsets on the market, he's blogging about cell phone news for Crave. In his On Call column, he answers reader questions and gives his take on the rapidly changing mobile industry. E-mail Kent.
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by zmnatz October 6, 2009 11:49 AM PDT
Way to stick up for your statement Kent. I agree that the iPhone should have MMS from the start. It didn't make sense. I hate it when companies release something new with outstanding features but forget about that basics expected of any product in the category.
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by DOGLLAMA October 6, 2009 7:33 PM PDT
I don't understand why you are bagging on the iPhone and not just AT&T.

AT&T and their horrible service is what prevented iPhone users from having MMS until now.

Also it seems to me that the Author needs to stop acting like MMS was God's gift to cell phones. Was it missed from the iphone? Yes. Would I much rather have email, apps, and a competent web browser? Absolutely.

This whole article seems like one big flame-bait for attention.
by Rick Cavaretti October 6, 2009 8:05 PM PDT
It's an ATT issue specific to the US users only. If you lived abroad and owned an iPhone, it's a non-issue.
by pando85 October 6, 2009 8:49 PM PDT
I have a few questions..

Was the original iPhone first gen officially available in places other then USA/At&t?
If it was, did it support MMS on these non US networks?

If it didnt, then arguing about the fact that it was Att (which is horrible btw) is to blame as well would be a moot point,since the phone itself when it first came out didnt do MMS to begin with. Which would than proove that this article did make sense. I'm not arguing at all, because I could be wrong. I honestly don't know the real answers to those questions I asked.
by noob2gaming October 7, 2009 11:11 AM PDT
@DOGLLAMA

The point is that MMS is NOT g-d's gift to cell phones... in fact, it is much simpler and a basic feature that should have been there!
by eekitsericc October 6, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
grr! kent whats yer problem the iPhone is soooo superior without MMS, and it can actually e-mail!
^^
sarcastic, kent.

shut up all you critical people !

lol.
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by pepepius October 7, 2009 6:53 AM PDT
Here's the question: does any iPhone owner actually use MMS? Ever since MMS became available on the iPhone I tried really hard to find a reason why I would use it, and succeeded once (I figured I'd give it a try). Most people I know have email on their phone, at work, in school, or at home...
I say MMS is soooooo 2003! Who wants/needs it anyway?
by jpg27 October 7, 2009 7:08 AM PDT
I dont need it.
I think pepepius has raised a strong point...ive had the 3G and 3Gs in the UK and only used MMS twice. Once to try it out.. and the other...... well cant really remember why the heck I used it...just wasted more of my SMS allowance. Anyway my point is strong selling points for smartphones are not MMS; they are email, texting, storage for media, screen size and resolution and synchronization with your computer.
by bluelight421 October 7, 2009 8:04 AM PDT
Wow Kent!! Look at the mobile market since the introduction of the iPhone and what do you see? Every manufacturer, carrier, and consumer looking to produce, sell, and purchase phones that are JUST LIKE iPHONE! Now i'm not saying that iPhone hasn't sorely lacked in many basic cell phone features from the start, but lets face it. How many people have looked at the iPhone and said, "what?! no MMS... I'm OUTA HERE!!"

It's crazy to think that you, a seasoned CNET editor, would condemn the iPhone for not including a feature that is easily remedied by e-mail and really is not that big of a burden for ACTUAL iPhone users. I mean lets face it, the majority of people complaining about MMS are iPhone haters anyway who just use that as ammunition to announce why they think THEIR phone of choice is better. I mean come on Kent, the iPhone may not be the best phone on the market anymore, but it has set so many trends in the market that i've lost count. To devote TWO articles to this garbage is ridiculous, and just shows how desperate CNET has become by using the iPhone's name to generate clicks.

Do me a favor... STOP picking out tiny flaws in the iPhone that don't even exist anymore and write about the other smartphone's out there with even worse problems and stick them on the FRONT PAGE instead!! And btw... I still love ya Kent! No hard feelings! : )
by Ray180 October 7, 2009 12:04 PM PDT
Talk about making mountains out of mole hills! I hardly think Kent has "condemned" the iPhone by pointing out that most other phones, including non-smart phones, could handle MMS as early as 2003. That's one drop in the bucket that makes the iPhone what it is. You Apple fanatics are sooooo hyper-sensitive to anything that could be taken as criticism that you overact to everything. Geez, take a deep breath and let it go.
by mmerritt20 October 6, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
When is someone going to write an article about tethering??? This can be more important at times to some people than MMS is! Why not put the pressure on for tethering now that MMS is available?
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by raffr October 6, 2009 11:53 AM PDT
kent, you had to know anything but frothing adulation to all things Apple would just stir up the fan boys. Especially when it come to the ipone. Apple is religon for some of these poor souls.
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by Chao_Sama October 6, 2009 12:25 PM PDT
get ready for 100+ comments.....people arguing about features... at the end of the day MMS should have been on the first model i-phone as well as an camcorder....pre-paid phones have this for 59.99$.....please don't respond saying well pre-paid phones can't get e-mail, apps, etc.....
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by bousozoku October 6, 2009 5:00 PM PDT
What's an i-phone?
by o2bpitching October 6, 2009 9:11 PM PDT
Ok, so some POS $60 can send MMS. But can it access the internet? Can it play music and movies? Does it have almost 100,000 apps for it? That would be a no.

Stop living in the past, because email, apps, music are what makes a phone good, not MMS. All it does is make money for wireless carriers because they can charge for it and naive people will pay for it.
by ywkhgqo October 6, 2009 9:34 PM PDT
@o2bpitching
calm the f down. You take it like its a huge shot at your pride.
Yes, the iphone can do some nice things. But the fact that it missed a basic function cannot be overlooked.

You talk about MMS making money for companies, what does your data plan do?
by o2bpitching October 6, 2009 10:16 PM PDT
Yeah, you have to pay for data and yeah, it makes money for the wireless carrier. But its all a cost benefit analysis. I can pay $15 a month and get 1500 text/MMS messages (which hardly make a blip on the wireless network's bandwidth). Or, I can pay $30, and get unlimited emails, web browsing, app using, and as of today, VOIP calling (which considerably use the network). It costs a wireless provider a lot more to fill a request for a web page than it does to send and receive a MMS message.

I guess it comes down to personal preference, but the data is a way better deal in my opinion.
by Ray180 October 6, 2009 12:29 PM PDT
nobody puts Kent in the corner!
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by duperstar October 6, 2009 12:48 PM PDT
Outstanding LOL.
by tek-ed October 6, 2009 12:42 PM PDT
Well, of course it's "welcome to 2003, iPhone" And in some cases, it's even further behind the times! And in typical apple fanboy manner, they attempt to compare the iPhone with a standard phone...which the iPhone is not. The iPhone attempts to be in a class of phone called "Smart Phones" and as such, should be compared to other smart phones. Taking that into consideration, the iPhone is only now getting services that other smart phones have had for years!
For instance. Voice control/dialing...this feature has been a standard for Windows based smart phones for almost 5 years now...Heck, this feature has even been on BlackBerry devices. I used it with my 7520 on Nextel 4 years ago!
Landscape keyboard...Windows mobile has had that feature for half a dozen years.
Voice Memos. Anyone with OneNote has been able to do this since Office 2007
YouTube and Flash based websites..again, a non issue with Windows Mobile
Encrypted backups. While formally embraced with WimMob 6.1, there were third party apps that this this years ago
Turn by turn navigation. Using the online service from the carrier, this was available for half a dozen years in both WinMob and BlackBerry and Garmin and TomTom has had a GPS app for WinMob for 5 years at least!
Tethering...come on...tethering? Since when has WinMob *NOT* had this feature? Heck, I had this feature with my Blackberry 7250!
Force quit an app...again. My HTC 8500 did this 4 years ago
3 megapixel camera...been there done that... years ago
Copy and Paste...heck, my BlackBerry 7250 did that 5 years ago!
I could go on, but I think my point has been made. The iPhone brings only three things to the table that older smart phones do not have.
Multi touch
Accelerometer
and a compass.
Ed
web/gadget guru
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by blackspyder1 October 6, 2009 1:04 PM PDT
ouch.
by redupiter October 6, 2009 1:36 PM PDT
You took the words out of my mouth. I just had my IPhone 3GS and was hugely impressed by the touch screen, vivid colours and clarity, accelerometer and compass and that is it. AS I started using it properly as everyday phone I am hugely hugely disappointed and a waste of money. It is way way way way way way way way behind WinMo (any version). Can't save files (any type and docs and pdf). How much storage is left? who knows. how much memory left? who knows. Can I switch to another app without going to the home screen, nope. you hear a sound, what is it ? who knows, switch to home screen and look for the apps, or if you are using an app, close it , go to home screen and find out what did you receive. i could go on and on and on....

it is a good Ipod, with a phone, and nice interface. fast web browsing and oh yeah some games... but for serious use it is not....

it is a mistake to compare Iphone (as you said) to anything else other than simple smartphones. Yes you can buy apps to do all the stuff that are missing but what is the point when most phones have them builtin. heck, even Adobe pdf viewer is free with most phones.

it is an Ipod for music lovers, who like to ccasionally to make a phone call and send 1 or 2 sms/mms. I will not mention GPS cause it is everywhere.

What a waste of money. I am giving this to my 12 year old daughter (the iphone suits that age and type. It is a girly phone) and getting myself HTC HD2, now this is a serious Phone for real men :-)

i am really really disappointed with Apple.
by stickyd October 6, 2009 1:44 PM PDT
Wow, you must really love Winmo devices......which there hasn't been a good Winmo device in years! All of you haters are just mad b/c the iPhone does so much, so great! People continue to forget that it was Apples first EVER smartphone, yet it managed to shake-up the entire industry and set a new standard of what a smartphone should be. The little things it didn't have at the beginning, like copy/paste and mms, were not missed very much. In fact, the only time I use MMS is when I'm talking to a person that has a piece of **** phone that can't send/receive full picture/video emails. Otherwise it's an inferior means of communication. Apple finally released it after so many requested it to communicate with their less-than-tech savy friends.

And as for you Ed, are you kidding me!?! You've obvisously never owned or used an iPhone 3GS for an extended amount of time. Otherwise, you would know how smoothly and easily it integrates a person for a total multi-media experience. From a catalog of great apps, speedy internet browser, slick UI, great music/video experience to tons of little things, it's the best smartphone on the market right now. That's why everyone is scrambling to copy it's features and offerings.

Your Winmo devices may have been able to do some of these things in years past, but they've never done any of them well!! So continue to deny the truth...........Apple has raised the bar and will continue to get even better! Have fun with your FisherPrice WinMo phone! HA, HA, HA-TERS!!!!
by stickyd October 6, 2009 1:56 PM PDT
redupiter,

The iPhone wasn't originally developed for the enterprise market. However, they have made strides in that direction and will continue to fix some of the issues you stated. With that being said, people want a device that does many things well. You can edit and save MS EXCEL/WORD/PDF files on the phone, if you buy the appropriate applications. "They should come on the phone"...why in the hell would Apple put a MS supported software on their phone? There are apps (cheap at that) that allow this option. I don't own them, but I can still open and read any EXCEL, Word, or PDF file on my phone. To say brag about any Winmo device is comical. I've owned a few WinMo, Palm and Blackberry devices and none compare to the 3GS! These "switching problems" between apps is hilarious. Almost every app on the iPhone saves your exact spot if you have to exit out to take a phone call or if you want to return an email. Winmo allows apps to run in the background, suck power and cripple their devices to the point their unusable! If you're strictly using your smartphone to edit spreadsheets and work from, maybe the iPhone's not for you. But if you have a social life, into music, movies, games and sharing pictures, video and other information on the go on one of the many social networks, while having one of the fastest internet browsing phones (with full web pages), then the iPhone is the way to go.....Now go edit a document on your Winmo. Oh, and this is from my iPhone 3GS........do that on your Winmo. I'll get a push notification when you reply to this......another thing your phone won't do! HA! Once again! HATERS!
by October 6, 2009 2:22 PM PDT
Tek-ed, you beat me to it. I own a Samsung Omnia with WinMob 6.1 and LOVE it. Email, text, MMS along with tethering, good web browsing with flash player. It even has a remote desktop client built in! Can't beat it.

Stickyd, One could ask you when the last time was you owned a WinMob phone. It's obvious it's been a while. I'm glad you're happy with your IPhone. Who knows, someday when they can fulfill my mobile needs I might even own one myself. For now, I need "productivity" not "pretty".
by Renegade Knight October 6, 2009 2:28 PM PDT
@stickyd

WinMo does the job. You don't have to like it, it is kludgy and dated now (6.5 may or may not fix that) but it does the job and the apps are pretty sweet. It had apps when the iPhone was just a twinkle in Daddy Job's eye.

I'm not saying that the iPhone isn't good for what it does well. Just that WinMo does a lot of things better like document managment and such.
by Renegade Knight October 6, 2009 2:29 PM PDT
@stickyd

WinMo does the job. You don't have to like it, it is kludgy and dated now (6.5 may or may not fix that) but it does the job and the apps are pretty sweet. It had apps when the iPhone was just a twinkle in Daddy Job's eye.

I'm not saying that the iPhone isn't good for what it does well. Just that WinMo does a lot of things better like document managment and such. The iPhone did not set a standard for what a smart phone should be. It set a standard for how to use a touch screen to make things simple. The only smart phone related item it launched was debate if the limited device actually qualified as a smart phone. Nope. It didn't. Maybe V3.0 has finally earned those chops.
by superswiss October 6, 2009 3:01 PM PDT
@stickyd: Well, at the moment my iPhone 3G doesn't do much more besides freezing and crashing and having to reboot multiple times a day. Ironically, the exact experience that Apple claims in their ads every Windows user supposedly has. This all due to the f'ed up 3.1 update for the iPhone 3G. Only affects the 3G. This kind of thing never happened on any WinMo phone I previously owned. Largely because those phones didn't need constant updates to add features that should have been there from the beginning. Here we are 4 weeks into it and there's still no fix and no official statement from Apple. At least now their tech support people admit that there's a huge issue with OS 3.1 on the iPhone 3G if you call them. If this continues nobody will take them serious at some point. Since OS 1.0 the quality has gone downhill. I forget how many point releases OS 2.0 needed to get it stable and now with 3.0 it's all starting over and even worse for 3G owners. People depend on their mobile phones. You can't release an update to f's up the phones for a large segment of your customers and not say anything for weeks. Are you kidding me!
by UKStory1355 October 6, 2009 6:08 PM PDT
I'd have replied in agreement to your post an hour ago, but I had to keep resetting my WinMo phone. WM phones do many things, but they are best at crashing.
by Yelonde October 6, 2009 7:45 PM PDT
I'm starting to see a pattern here... When Apple released Leopard, there was a huge upbringing on Windows zealots. When Apple released the iPod Touch, there was a huge upbringing of Zune zealots. The iPhone is not a new topic, but why is it that suddenly, people are writing about how great WinMo is? I have never seen such Winmo fanboyism on other iPhone articles. Perhaps this is yet another new trend by Microsoft fanboys? I means, seriously?

I hope you guys enjoy your WinMo devices, I seriously do. But from what I recall, more people have switched to the iphone, rather than vice-versa.
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by whosawhatsit October 6, 2009 1:05 PM PDT
Stupid AT&T, be more better! Agreed, should have been a functionality from the get to but that's not really a fault of Apple or the iPhone.

tek-ed: you neglected to mentioned the 500lb gorilla in the room: the app store
/addFunctionalityGalore!!
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by whosawhatsit October 6, 2009 1:06 PM PDT
get to > get go
by jamesmilt October 6, 2009 2:13 PM PDT
um the iPhone is not a girly phone. lol. you obviously just don't understand how to use it or cant accept change.
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by dhaval001 October 6, 2009 2:38 PM PDT
Well you apple fan boys, there is one feature that Apple still can't do that probably was in the first ever cell phone that motorola had designed which was known as brick and also considered the ugliest gadget as per Tom Merit's Top 5.

And the feature is............."reject a call". Yes, believe it or not, you can't reject a call on the iPhone, if your iPhone is locked. You can only turn it to silent using the pathetic switch that is on the side, which ideally "should do more than one thing" (remember original iphone keynote by Mr Steve jaws?).

So go cry to Steve now.....or u know what, "may be that's good for you and that's why steve didn't put it in the iPhone". Yeah...
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by whosawhatsit October 6, 2009 2:43 PM PDT
hitting vol +/- also silences the ring, which is very easy to do - basically just squeeze the top of the phone. no need to do it "using the pathetic switch."

no need to be spiteful folks - why is it so hard to be respectful to those you've yet to meet in person?
by gianpo400 October 6, 2009 3:47 PM PDT
Just click the top button to reject a call maybe you should learn to use the device before you complain that it doesn't have features it actually does have.
by Tech Diva XXX October 6, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
I agree! The same can be said for copy and paste. I don't get how something called a smartphone waited so long to include this!

And how about templates for texting? My dumbphones allowed that along with MMS ages ago!
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by eddydavik October 6, 2009 2:54 PM PDT
I didn't even know what MMS was until people started complaining about it with the iphone. So it must not be THAT basic of a feature.
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by Tech Diva XXX October 6, 2009 3:30 PM PDT
How about when every other decent modern phone has it but yours?
by eddydavik October 7, 2009 5:31 AM PDT
Again, didn't know what it was until the iphone thingy popped up. I live in a country that has SMS as yesterday's tech. Why would I need MMS when I can send photos and other media by e-mail (every phone in Japan, where I live, has e-mail service) for free without having to pay a service charge or data usage thingy or whatever?

For me, now understanding what MMS is, I don't understand what the fuss about it is.
by Tech Diva XXX October 8, 2009 9:53 AM PDT
My friends take impromptu pictures and send to me by MMS. With the iPhone before MMS it was VERY cumbersone for me to view those photos on the go. You had to sign in on some dumb website just to view a photo. I also don't want to have my email cluttered with photos, I want to see the pic on my phone right away so I can decide to delete or keep the pic right then and there.

I told peope never to MMS me on the iPhone before now. I don't need the hassle of signing in or email. Japan is usually ahead of the curve but MMS is so much easier than email IMO for sending quick photos.
by TheHBK23 October 6, 2009 3:06 PM PDT
Having email doesnt excuse not having MMS. They messed up plain and simple. And oh yeah, the first email was sent in the 60's, but you forget, you can send text messages back and forth using an email address for the second party as well. Look it up.
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by NJMetsHero October 6, 2009 3:32 PM PDT
Well it seems to have been more of a carrier issue right? So you'd blame AT&T for not being ready.
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by SofaKingdom October 6, 2009 6:09 PM PDT
AT&T seems to be more of the issue here. We've had MMS since 3.0 was released, and I still have tethering available (Vodafone AU). Oh by the way you all got trolled big time. Well played, Kent. :clap:
by hmbms October 6, 2009 3:38 PM PDT
I can blame Apple for the poor sound quality, dropped calls, and the terrible ring tone levels, since I never had issues with my old nokia e71.
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by Barçafan October 6, 2009 3:47 PM PDT
Yes, sure, it was AT&Ts fault...

What is this guy talking about..? Ok, AT&T users had to wait after Apple made the feature available with OS 3.0. But that's only a couple of months. The iPhone had been around for a long time and Apple didn't do anything about MMS until this summer. And this guy is blaming AT&T (because some other carriers made it available right after the release of 3.0..)

These Apple fans are soooo annoying.. Always making every other company look like incompetents (Microsoft, AT&T, etc..) and they are "so cool".. They really annoy me.

As much as I love my iPhone, I'm definitely not cool enough to be a Mac guy..
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by alexacker October 6, 2009 3:54 PM PDT
This article is sticky paper for WinMo tech nerd ******* to diss Apple. Fine, go for it!

Can't people just agree to disagree? I'm a Mac brand ambassador but don't go around posting on tech nerd blogs that a feature has been missing since 2003... I personally don't give a flying fart about MMS.

Perhaps you guys need a hobby or a GF or both!
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by raymund15 October 6, 2009 11:44 PM PDT
No offense, but didnt you just do exactly what you said you dont do? and if you have a GF wouldnt you send her mms? I mean doesnt everybody? Not being a jerk just kind of confused...


And i dont care about apple or microsoft, future android and blackberrys people! I mean waaaaay future! Not now kind of crappy.
by cnetpre October 6, 2009 4:28 PM PDT
I think many agree with you here. There are many things on the iPhone that Apple should have released many years ago. Reading iPhone getting MMS and Copy/Paste features with so much fanfare was Soo pathetic. It seems while 3rd party developers build functionality and make up for what the iPhone lacks, Apple does very little to improve the basic should-have functions of the iPhone itself to remain years ahead of it's time.

Palm Pre, Android, and other smartphones have true multitasking. If it took that long for iPhone to have MMS and Copy/Paste, it may never have true multitasking. It may be a sign of Apple's short of technical talent. And if that's the case, I'd hate to see how long it will take to get their bandaid solution to recompile Flash apps to run on the iPhone flawlessly without dozens of bugs frustrating Flash developers.

Oh well, Palm Pre, Android, Nokia, and Windows Mobile will not have to deal with that and still benefit by being fully Flash-compatible.
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by Barçafan October 6, 2009 4:28 PM PDT
Oh, poor little thing.. they made you waste your money..

I have had other smartphones in the past (WM), and after having the iPhone for over a year now, you just made me realize how bad it is.. I can't believe this is the best selling phone/smartphone ever. Millions of people must be wrong. I'm not an Apple fan at all, but the iPhone is just the best gadget I've ever purchased (and I've had a few..).

So you can't view a PDF on the iPhone..? Really...? Well, what can I say.. I'm sure your 12 year old can teach you how to do it. It's that simple. Just open the PDF attachment and voila! You are viewing a pdf file.. Same thing for office docs.. There's not a single thing that a WM phone or a Blackberry can do that the iPhone can't.
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by Tech Diva XXX October 8, 2009 9:54 AM PDT
Background tasks, unless you jailbreak the iPhone.
by djkamasutra October 6, 2009 4:34 PM PDT
some people need to relax & have a glass of wine. seriously, it's just a phone.
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by raymund15 October 6, 2009 11:46 PM PDT
Agreed, people act like its their companies battling, when we're just the suckers that pay too much for them...
by lavern October 14, 2009 6:35 AM PDT
This is the most intelligent comment on this board bar none
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