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May 7, 2008 9:51 AM PDT

The Digital Home 14: Is Blu-ray really dead?

Don starts out the show talking with CNET's Tom Merritt about Blu-ray, Yahoo and much more. After that, he sits down with James McQuivey of Forrester Research to discuss the future of the digital home. And in a final segment you won't want to miss, Don tells the world why he won't sell out.
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by Kingdaddy2000 May 8, 2008 5:37 AM PDT
Too bad you can't read the transcript., I don't want to watch a video.
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by Wes#1 May 8, 2008 6:28 AM PDT
I agree with Kingdaddy2000.... I'm not going to sit through a stupid podcast. Where's the TEXT? Not that Blu-ray-hater-Don will have anything new to say...
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by Spiza2 May 8, 2008 7:30 AM PDT
Your description of journalism reminds me of sports talk radio.
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by Spiza2 May 8, 2008 7:40 AM PDT
Lets finish reading the ars technica artical:

"PS3. The reported declines in Blu-ray player sales aren't actually declines at all; they only apply to standalone players. Sony's PlayStation 3 has been moving serious units, and while standalone player shipments can be numbered in the thousands, Sony sold 257,000 PS3s in March 2008 alone. That represents a 98 percent growth rate in year-over-year sales. Given the high cost of standalone players and the fact that the price didn't fall after the HD DVD announcement, it's clear that most people are getting their Blu-ray fix from the PS3.

ABI believes that PS3s will account for a full 85 percent of all Blu-ray players in the wild by the end of 2008. Despite dire headlines regarding Blu-ray that are based on the recent ABI and NPD reports, it's clear that the format is actually growing the number of players in the field, and in significant ways. "

Lets just ignore the best blu-ray option.
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by ianim8 May 8, 2008 9:27 AM PDT
out of sight out of mind ;)
if its so dead, why is it alive in my living-room at any given time :)
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by shadygeezer May 8, 2008 6:50 PM PDT
I have been coming to cnet for tech info for a couple of months now and finally decided to state that I find it biased and un-objective in its reporting, a huge bias towards mainly "American good" such as apple, and a very anti Sony stance, regarding PS3, Blu-ray etc.

I have listened to your podcast, is Tom Merritt a joke or what, if he's an actual expert, then seriously you must be joking - by the way he not a genius.

Firstly, his point about price, DVD's did cost a lot when they first came out, it took a couple of years before the costs came down. Blu-ray won the battle but like all products it needs time to establish itself, its going trough that transition period now. The second point, blu-ray is "needed", not everyone will look to download everything onto memory systems on whatever device, for example, games have huge memory requirements rather than using whatever gigabits, a disc sounds more sensible plus its quicker.

Plus the market for downloading large movie files, games etc doesn't exist yet, maybe in 5-years time the broadband systems are efficient and capable to do this. But in that time Sony will make a killing through blu-ray, For example in the UK there is talk about broadband overload where there isn't enough speed or server spaces etc for such download services to exist. Not only that markets with limited broadband services will need blu-ray for movies/games etc.

So Tom needs to go back to school and learn to analyse things objectively and research things thoroughly before passing personal ideals as expertise.
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by shadygeezer May 8, 2008 6:56 PM PDT
I have been coming to cnet for tech info for a couple of months now and finally decided to state that I find it biased and un-objective in its reporting, a huge bias towards mainly "American good" such as apple, and a very anti Sony stance, regarding PS3, Blu-ray etc.

I have listened to your podcast, is Tom Merritt a joke or what, if he's an actual expert, then seriously you must be joking - by the way he not a genius.

Firstly, his point about price, DVD's did cost a lot when they first came out, it took a couple of years before the costs came down. Blu-ray won the battle but like all products it needs time to establish itself, its going trough that transition period now. The second point, blu-ray is "needed", not everyone will look to download everything onto memory systems on whatever device, for example, games have huge memory requirements rather than using whatever gigabits, a disc sounds more sensible plus its quicker.

Plus the market for downloading large movie files, games etc doesn't exist yet, maybe in 5-years time the broadband systems are efficient and capable to do this. But in that time Sony will make a killing through blu-ray, For example in the UK there is talk about broadband overload where there isn't enough speed or server spaces etc for such download services to exist. Not only that markets with limited broadband services will need blu-ray for movies/games etc.

So Tom needs to go back to school and learn to analyse things objectively and research things thoroughly before passing personal ideals as expertise.
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by ev61 May 8, 2008 9:45 PM PDT
The problem Don, is that while a column or a podcast does not have to be objective (and often should not be) but a statistic should be. Your Blu-ray disc player numbers are so terribly wrong that you cannot even form an opinion on it but rather regurgitate the anti-BD view without knowing what is going on. If you don't know what device I am talking about then you really need to get a different job "speculating" on something you may know about.
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by mickey918 May 9, 2008 2:06 AM PDT
It's so funny reading all the comments defending Blu-Ray. It seems they're mostly from kids with PS-3 game players. People who watch movies are generally NOT game players, and game players (PS-3 owners) don't usually buy them to watch movies. In other words, the movie industry will suffer a BIG HD loss from deciding to go to Blu-Ray however you look at it. Blu-Ray will die out. It wouldn't surprise me to see HD-DVD make a re-appearance.
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by Martiat May 9, 2008 2:54 AM PDT
What would really be interesting to know, are the monthly statistics about sales of Blu-Ray discs.
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by rick2652 May 10, 2008 12:07 PM PDT
I agree that CNET has an annoying tendency toward bias and are often slow to review new products. I think the persistent slam against Blu-Ray stinks of the payoffs and under the table deals that were part of the format war before Toshiba gave up the ghost. Is is possible some of this is still going on since Toshiba seems to be pouting in a corner and refusing to embrace Blu-Ray? CNET, are you a bit richer for your anti-Blu-Ray stance? Anyway, if you want a more objective look at the status and potential of this format, check out digitalbits.com. These guys are Blu supporters but came to this conclusion after objectively looking at the format and where it seems to be headed.
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by rkinne01 May 10, 2008 8:10 PM PDT
An American reporter on an American web site championing US made products? It's about damn time.
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by Awexome May 10, 2008 8:34 PM PDT
Just plain terrible journalism. False figures can't prove biased opinions. CNET is a joke.
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by sonymaster101 May 11, 2008 12:19 AM PDT
since when? i bought mine for the games and the movies. you wouldnt know because u probably dont have one.
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by labazzo May 11, 2008 6:22 AM PDT
Blue ray will die unless it lowers its prices. Upconverting DVD players are good enough for the average consumer. I like to watch the movie not all the extra things they put on blue ray discs. Waste of space on the Blue ray disc.
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by CYBERMAN1956 May 11, 2008 10:22 AM PDT
I don't think Blu Ray will ever become the defacto format for movies. The players are still priced too high. Most users are quite happy with conventional DVD. I own a large library of DVDs. I play them on an upconverting DVD player and it suits me fine. Who gives a flip about four time the resolution. I can make also record movies off my dish and they look fine. Enough with the bull. The conventional DVD format will be around for a long time and had more titles. Sony like always has shown that it can produce amazing products but its marketing efforts are always a great letdown.
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by Shadowboricua May 11, 2008 3:32 PM PDT
You are so wrong on this one. I am a physician 30+ years old and I recently bought a PS3 for my family as the best option for watching HD movies. Apart from that I use Folding@home, slideshows, upconvert DVDs, etc... So, yeah... my PS3 is my BD player! Why buy anything else?
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by totocalimero May 11, 2008 3:40 PM PDT
The real problem with Blu-Ray is that the technology was pushed not to provide better features to the end user but to be able to enforce DRM's.

I just had a look at walmart.com to see how much Blu-Ray discs sell for and I can already say that there is not a chance of a snow ball in hell that I will buy movies in this new format. It is a total rip off.

DVD's may be inferior when it comes to resolution, that is true. However, the differential in quality and features (who gives a crap about a one hour special feature that is so boring that it makes you turn off the TV?) cannot justify the differential in pricing.

Add to this that video on demand is coming our way big time and studios must slash prices right now if they want to stand a chance to sell them.

Otherwise, like almost everybody else, I will stick to my cheap DVD's whose picture quality is enough.
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by techmulticast May 13, 2008 9:28 AM PDT
if HD-DVD is not truly dead then it is hard to believe BluRay (which won) will die. Believe it or not, some people just want to spend more to feel comfortable that they are getting the 'best' product available. Hence I do not think the high price tag will kill BR. Even if download is accepted, BR will still be around for quite awhile. oh btw VCDs are still around....

Unless the maker of BR cannot stop bleeding and 'bleed' itself to death, due to the aftermaths of the format war, which I doubt so....Let see what is their next move. lol
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