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November 12, 2007 5:54 AM PST

Any CIO not using open source "should be fired": a conversation with CIOs

Posted by Matt Asay
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I'm reading through the transcript from an excellent CIO event, the CIO Survival Guide for Web 2.0, which was co-hosted by WaveMaker and BSG Alliance (Tuesday, November 6 at the Ritz Carlton in San Francisco). Speakers included: Jim Sutter, former CIO of Xerox and Rockwell International; Steve Douty, President of BSG On-Demand Applications; Andrew Aitken, founding partner of the Olliance Group; Lila Tretikov, CIO of SugarCRM; Larry Singer, former CIO of the State of Georgia; Max Rayner, former CIO of SurfControl; and (Moderator) Raven Zachary, Open Source Research, The 451 Group.

The conversation is wide-ranging and insightful. Here are a few of the gems as they relate to open source:

Steve Douty stirred the pot a little with this comment:

So, this is about CIO-safety. I would say that any CIO that doesn't work open source into their near-term plans or future plans should be fired, and that's because he's misappropriating his own resources. If somebody inside of his company -- if his scarce resources of these programs that are all going to retire in 15 years, and if these people are writing code that's out there in an open source, that, to me, is negligence. Yes, there is some maturity to go, but I would tell you that the pace of maturity of open source is going to double and triple over the next coming months, I think if we come back here again in nine months -- in six months -- it would change dramatically from where it is even now.

Max Rayner:

I'd point to a connection. Often open source trivializes the question to just the realm of software. It may be more interesting to look at community-contributed value -- looking at sugar as a competitor, when I was at SalesForce. It was interesting to observe that they made very rapid progress in catching up with features. That rapid progress cost them very little, because there was a lot of community contribution. There is some gold in those hills. In that sense, making it open source, not so you can brag to your friends at a cocktail party, but making it open source because you realize that it's a prerequisite to involving a community that then continues. That makes some sense to me.

Lila Tretikov:

To that point, also, I think what we saw over the last decade is that what we knew open source being -- as potentially buggy, not supported -- you really had to have the right staff who could manage the software, who could really dig into it, and fix the bugs when those bugs arose. Now, it's getting to the point where it's completely on par with commercial software, and, more often than not, it will have a company that stands behind it, and can support it when you need it, as long as you are willing to pay a few bucks for it. On the maturity scale, it gets to the point where, from the perspective of the user, it's really there in terms of stability, and in terms of support. That's where it's becoming really important, and that's where, also, I guess, differentiation from commercial open source comes in, versus the kid in Romania who wrote some application, and your developers need to become competent enough to figure out to fix.

Jim Sutter on a perceived lack of support in open source:

I didn't say it was boring. It's hair-raising. I can tell you. No, it's not easy. The one thing that I would have to say is that open source, probably, is less overhyped and overstated than all the commercial promotion surrounding commercial-licensed software, which CIOs, for the most part, realize that there's less there than is advertised. Most of these software companies that produce this aren't adhering to some of their own principles about adherence to standards, and compliance, and so on. Open source doesn't scare them. What scares them, I think, is wondering who to go to, and if they can rely on the who-do-I-go-to in the middle of Labor Day weekend, and will they be there -- I think.

Great stuff. Open source is changing the way we think about software, and our interactions with it. This is particularly true if you're a CIO.

Matt Asay is general manager of the Americas and vice president of business development at Alfresco, and has nearly a decade of operational experience with commercial open source and regularly speaks and publishes on open-source business strategy. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.
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We've come a long way on open source
by ctkeene November 12, 2007 3:03 PM PST
@Matt - great posting. How refreshing to hear what CIOs actually think, rather than getting spoon-fed what vendors and analysts project that CIOs think (with 0.8 probability ;-) )

I linked back to your post and added my own thoughts at:

http://www.keeneview.com/2007/11/nobody-ever-got-fired-for-choosing-open.html
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support is there
by davejenk1ns November 13, 2007 12:54 PM PST
Good summary, Matt. As a CIO who lived and breathed open source wherever possible, I'd like to make a couple of comments:
1. spot-on about the talent issue. Proprietary-centric talent is rapidly ageing toward retirement, or at least out of the programmer/developer phase of their careers. Most young hot talent is open source (java, php, perl, etc) first, .NET/C# second.

2. The fear around 'lack of support' is just fear. It's no more of a problem than getting support from proprietary vendors. In many cases, I found it to be better. Proprietary packages tended to officially offshore their support to Lahore, and then to some flunky for 1st level and 2nd level. Open Source support was right there in IRC, message boards, or in 'real' companies like Red Hat, EnterpriseDB, Zimbra, etc. Any CIO who cannot find support channels for Open Source software doesn't know how to use the Internet properly. Any CIO who cannot hire managers that know where/how/when to use open source are not paying attention.

3. Proprietary software is fiscally stupid. License costs are now high enough as to demand a 3-5 year amortization schedule. This is madness in a world where most software is ready to be upgraded severely or replaced outright in 18-24 months. Software is a fungible item with high-viscosity-- it moves quickly and is slippery. Pay accordingly.
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Matt Asay brings a decade of in-the-trenches open-source business and legal experience to the Open Road, with an emphasis on emerging open-source business strategies and opportunities. Matt is general manager of the Americas division and vice president of business development at Alfresco, a company that develops open-source software for content management. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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