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Buzz Out Loud 745: Spit to spam to Spain

by Molly Wood

Microsoft and Yahoo are dead, over, done, in the ground, and Yahoo has moved on to Google, and that's the end of it. Or is it!? Also today, spitting crosses the line, cell phones cause serious (like, for real) addiction in some Spanish teens, Metallica retracts its redaction of some blogger reviews, and MySpace is getting a new design. Phew. Finally.


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EPISODE 745

Analysts don’t rule out a Microsoft-Yahoo deal just yet
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9967862-7.html
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080612-microsoft-yahoo-deal-really-seriously-dead-this-time.html
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/our-agreement-to-provide-ad-technology.html
http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?&ReleaseID=316450

Potential MySpace redesign leak hints at new features
http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/06/potential-myspa.html
http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9967731-2.html

comScore: Facebook matches MySpace
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/06/13/comscore-facebook-matches-myspace

Metallica retracts retraction
http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=600942

Spit will be worse than spam
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/12/136232

Mod chips legal in the U.K.
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/06/12/2037223.shtml

Universal to appeal promo CD ruling
http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/06/universal-to-ap.html

Spain treats child phone addicts
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7452463.stm

Real racing in the virtual world
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7440658.stm

Final Skynet satellite launched
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7451867.stm

‘I’m NOT the 'Wii Fit' girl!’
http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9967527-1.html

Screen grab: Woz hacks Kathy Griffin’s iPhone… on TV
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/video-woz-hacks-kathy-griffins-iphone/

VOICE MAIL

Alex
Molly cursed me!

Paul Verizon
Here's our data plan?

Eric Michigan
About the paperclip.

FORUMS

IMPORTANT Q: …are we electing a Mayor yet?
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6035_102-0.html?forumID=97&threadID=297787

E-MAIL

My Very Excellent Mother Just Served Us Nothing.

http://www.teachingideas.co.uk/science/orderingplanets.htm

--Brian


Damn, seems our government wants to be just like yours…

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/06/12/tech-copyright.html

--Dave


hi Buzz Crew,

Tom, the theory of your “cycles” you’ve been talking about on past 2 or 3 episodes it’s one of the basic theries in economics and it’s called “business/economic cycles” :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_cycle - here you can red more http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Cyclee.jpg - and a nice graph :)

Greetings
--Thomas the programmer from Poland

http://www.subbrilliant.com/blog/?p=104


Hello BOL crew,

I just viewed the "poster" for the BOL meetup tonight at http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/780695...And I just gotta say, I am a little frightened because it reminds me too much of this...

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5509/bolzombiesew6.jpg

Maybe it's just me. Anyways, thanks for the great podcast!

--Alfred Hom

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by markcmann June 13, 2008 4:29 PM PDT
Great...AT&T is going to follow in Time Warner's foot steps and charge usage-based pricing:

http://www.betanews.com/article/Heavy_ATT_DSL_users_could_see_additional_fees/1213387162

Figures, now that the whole family relies on our Broadband link for web surfing, iTunes, email, Netflix Player, DirecTV Video on Demand, etc. our only two Broadband carriers in the area are going to charge usage-based pricing...what's next $4.00 per gallon gasoline...oh wait...
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by ross613 June 13, 2008 5:29 PM PDT
One aspect of the Microhoo story that isn't getting much attention (and I have a theory or two why this might be) is the fact that there's just not as much hollerin' about Google's flagrant violation of antitrust as there was for another company with a certain antitrust litigation legacy. Yet to me, if it wasn't okay for Microsoft to allegedly monopolize portions of the IT market through making agreements of one sort of another, why is everyone letting Google off the hook? Because it has a nice technocolour, festive-looking logo?

I've never really understood the anxiety Microsoft engenders in some. So I'm not really a fan of Google being subjected to the same nonsense when it comes to antitrust litigation. But the marketplace only works when there's one set of rules for all - and to some extent I'm perceiving a lesser critique of Google in its dealings with Yahoo. Can you folks spend a moment or two in coming episodes speaking to this point?

Anti-MS biases aside (j/k), I love the show. Keep up the great work! (And don't shy away from talking about Googlehoo or Microhoo or whatever it'ls gonna get called - the story deserves all the attention it's getting.)
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by Arthur Belle Dent June 14, 2008 9:19 PM PDT
"We were out of town" is right up there with "my dog ate my homework" when it comes to BS.

My college roommate travels in a band throughout the country and I can get in touch at any time with him through Skype or the Yahoo IM which he can access on his Iphone. A guy in his band has the N95 and we even tried the Qik.com live video thingie.
So PLEASE, dont tell me Metallica was 'out of town'.
As an excuse, it is pathetic.
Maybe you could get away with this kind of baloney in the pre-cellphone era but now with laptops, webcam and smart phones, dont insult my intelligence.

This was business as usual except this time as soon as they felt the bad feedback that the web sites managed to gather, they learned from their past screwups, quickly changed their tune and blamed management along with a carefully prepared statement by the public relations company they have working for them.
After all the bad publicity theyve managed to garner over the past decade, you mean to tell me that this isnt EXACTLY what a good PR person would do?

As for Google>Microsoft, Ross dont even try to make this seem as a Microsoft slight. Their despicable track record speaks for itself. Most of the bodies they left in their wake werent MS competitors but their partners, OEMs, suppliers, resellers.
Seriously, you dont understand why Microsoft is despised by many? Really? Why dont you Google it !!
Seems to me a multiple convicted monopolists should get some hits.

Im not crazy about monopolies but it doesnt even seem that this is a deal as just simply Google throwing money at Yahoo for not taking the Microsoft deal.
Jason is right, Yahoo will get dependant on that money quickly but like a good drug dealer, Google gives a nice big chunk to 'try to see if they like it'.
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by matevam June 15, 2008 5:17 PM PDT
About the unlimited plan for individual users vs the business users, it is like having a different price for kids and adults in buffet. It is unlimited food, but based on pricing product strategy, on average how much a kid will eat and how much the parent will pay for it.

Unlimited individual plan is still unlimited. Does not say you cannot used more than certain bandwidth. But based on the pricing strategy, they take into account the average individual users up to how much data and the exception 20% that uses very high is smoothen out in the curve.

Taking enterprise users as a group that is a different pricing strategy. As an individual user who is paying for my own plan i am ok with the unlimited plan (so please do not get them to change it) where as my company is paying for my separate enterprise plan for all the office emails.
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by ccooley443 June 16, 2008 6:52 AM PDT
re the story about the 2 people with the same name - what about using middle names or initials for clarity?
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by chicahaia July 30, 2008 3:26 AM PDT
These issues are really annoying for all of us. Maybe someday they will be resolved..
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