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January 31, 2008 11:15 AM PST

Buzz Out Loud 651: No more duper

Posted by Molly Wood
Serious news today: A cut submarine cable damages Middle East Internet access, Amazon acquires Audible, and we rail against "super duper" as a serious political news term. In other news, the C Block hits its reserve price, and Verizon and the RIAA agree that the government shouldn't mandate ISP-level traffic filtering. Although the RIAA still wouldn't mind if Verizon did it just to be nice.

--Molly


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EPISODE 651

TODAY'S LINKS:


TODAY'S VOICE MAIL:
Sentient Lee from Michigan
How we all die and become zombies.

Kim
Here's something about eBay.

Jim in Midway, Ohio
FCC auction.



TODAY'S E-MAIL:
More grist for the copyright abuse mill
Hey Buzz crew,

Long time listener, but inactive responder as I am always listening to the previous day's podcast on my morning commute. I can't even pause and call on the cell phone while driving, (not that I would, of course) because I am already the proverbial day late and dollar short.

So, this isn't in response to anything particular from a show, just a story from TechDirt on yet another salvo in the Culture of Ownership wars (see link and excerpt below).

Heh (not LOL)--maybe you already talked about it today.

BTW: After fixing Netizen usage of "its" and "it's", could you please do something about "loose" and "lose." Arghhh!

Love the show, love the rants!

Best,
Bob in New Jersey

Should U2 be held responsible?
In regards to the story in episode 650 about U2. My question is, if U2 should be held to the same standards for any criminal activity that occurs at their concerts? Should they have to collect and provide lists of concert-goers, track activity, and be held responsible for any illegal activity that might occur at their concerts?

'Nuff said.

Darrin in New York

Paul McGuiness
Hi Jason, Molly, Tom (thought I would shake up the order),

I am writing concerning my fellow countryman, Paul McGuinness and his comments on ISPs, episode 650. I think he is totally disingenuous, he rants about ISPs destroying music. I totally agree that to compel ISPs to introduce mandatory service disconnections to end unauthorized downloading, is total madness.

He specifically accused companies such as Apple, Google, and Facebook of building "multibillion dollar industries on the back of our content without paying for it". Could that be because he could then sue the world's richest men for a lot more money to stick in his Dutch U2 bank account now, would it Paul? These comments are rich, forgive the pun, considering this same individual and his band U2, moved their finances-- Euro 690 million, to evade Euro 15 million in taxes. Why then should the average individual concern themselves over huge businesses that abuse our tax systems, to ensure their ability to buy bigger silver spoons? Boo hoo hoo Paul, Bono etc.

Paul wants to "shift the focus of moral pressure away from the individual P2P thief and on to the multibillion dollar industries that benefit from these tiny crimes." Also, could this be the same individual who signed a multimillion dollar deal with Apple back in 2004 on behalf of U2 so that they would help promote the iPod with the sale of their own limited edition versions.

I totally agree with you, Tom and Molly, that no business should have to support another business.

Anyway great show, listen all the time for about a year, great to distract me at work.

Cheers,
Mike

Technology breaking the ice
Hey Buzzards, Ankh in Dublin here.

In episode 650 you played a call from someone who had listened to two Zune users hooking up on the back of a bus. Well, I have trumps on that one: Last night an attractive girl sat beside me on the DART; she seemed to be crying, so I set about trying to cheer her up. I whipped out my HP tx1000, snapped it into tablet mode and we drew some silly pictures together.

She cheered up. Mission complete!

-Keep up the good work. and tell that Merritt to expect an angry e-mail from me soon.

Ankwatcher

Did you say Singapore sells iPhones?
Hey BOL crew,

I'm in the army, so I only download episodes over the weekend and listen to them over a week, so forgive me for being slow on this one.

Anyway, on episode 648, Tom was responding to the e-mail from the guy from Thailand who sees iPhones everywhere, mentioning that "if Thailand has that many, you gotta figure Singapore..." would have them selling everywhere too.

Well actually, a few weeks ago, Apple sent letters to every Singapore retailer selling unlocked iPhones telling them that it is illegal to do so and that they will fine them $1,000 (not sure U.S. or Singapore dollars) per iPhone they sell! (I may be wrong about the price, it's on iLounge.com. Their mobile version only goes so far back.)

I think they said something about copyright infringement, because you pay for the license to use but not modify the phone. Can't really remember. I asked people in the industry about this and they said some guy here signed Singapore up for a stricter DMCA that doesn't allow unlocking. We've never heard of subsidy locks before the iPhone, you see. It's illegal for carriers to lock phones here. So the only iPhones around here are either purchased before Apple stepped in or are doing it in the dark. Yeah. As if not bringing the iTunes store here wasn't bad enough.

Just thought I'd throw in that "well actually."

Oh, and really love the show, been listening before Veronica was on board. :)

Dan the Singapore podcaster

P.S. I love the newsletter 'cos I can't get to the BOL blog while at work (well, I could, but my phone's browser won't load it properly), so I rely on reading them in my Gmail mobile from my Nokia E61 when I'm in my army camp. In fact, sometimes I read them instead of listening to the show 'cos I've collected too much backlot over the weekend, and there's no time to listen during the weekdays.

Weather control
Hey Jason, or China,

I was outside shoveling the 35cm of snow we got today (with 120km/h winds and -30C windchill that shut down our whole city and closed about 700km of highway in northern Ontario) while listening to today's BOL. So, umm, could Jason or China do something about this?

On the plus side, my neuropharm students missed a midterm, so there is that.

Dave (the snow-shoveling psychologist)

Beware the Mollet!
Ben from Highland, Illinois

Go Bulldogs!

BTW, Tom, thank god for the DMV in Greenville--it is way better than Edwardsville's two-hour wait!

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by Khaled A. January 31, 2008 1:23 PM PST
The Internet is not a series of tubes, its a submarine ...
Things are getting better here in Saudi Arabia, using backup cables through another way I guess... at least I got my BOL fix and Lost soon ;)
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by RabbiTheLinguist January 31, 2008 2:50 PM PST
Hey, where's the link to the TSA blog? This frequent flyer is looking forward to these explanations...

Oh, and to all those behind the severed cable: may you regain your internets swiftly.
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by WisnaemeCNET February 1, 2008 4:44 AM PST
Good to hear about the undersea link failure.
Maybe the outage to the 2nd world countries will now help us get jobs back into the UK where we need them. We're importing immigrants endlessly and outsourcing our jobs.

The UK is starting to die due to this whole situation. The sooner it changes the better.
Robert
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by wizkids32 February 1, 2008 2:18 PM PST
Why can't they just life up the ocean and fix the tubes.
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by samdu February 1, 2008 7:35 PM PST
WHY with the Sony hate all the freakin' time?!?! I don't have an issue with it when it's warranted, but when Molly says something like "Sony's eBook Reader Store is 'probably' clunky," I get a little peeved. If you haven't used the service (and I haven't), don't make an assumption about it. For all anyone that hasn't used the service knows, it could be the best implemented virtual store ever, albeit pretty expensive comparatively. By all means take Sony to task for the prices, but don't rake them over the coals for something that may or may not be true. Did Sony kill Molly's dog or something? Sheesh!
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