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November 14, 2008 11:40 AM PST

Buzz Out Loud 853: The Netbook and the girl

by Molly Wood
On today's Buzz Out Loud, sage dating tips from a bunch of old married people. Meanwhile, Microsoft launches an online store where you can go buy things if you like to pay more than you have to; a girl offers to pimp your start-up for a mere $75 a day and we give her about a million dollars worth of grief; and Google loves the iPhone more than Android--at least for now!
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EPISODE 853

Microsoft launches online store: Is there deeper meaning here?
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=10849
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10097239-75.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/153874/microsoft_opens_online_store_im_not_impressed.html

PSP outsells PS3 and Nintendo (Wii and DS) outsell anything you can think of
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081114-october-npd-sales-the-console-market-is-all-about-pricing.html

Nintendo’s Wii Speak a new front in war against used games
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081113-nintendos-wii-speak-a-new-front-in-war-against-used-games.html

Google brings speech recognition to phones
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/14/technology/internet/14voice.html
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/11/14/google-iphone-app-already-lists-voice-function-but-its-not-there/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10092525-2.html?tag=mncol;title

Universal Music Group: We're still selling tunes, amazingly
http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20081114/universal-music-group-were-still-selling-tunes-amazingly/

Obama to deliver weekly address via YouTube
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10097321-38.html

Lawmaker plans bill on Web neutrality
http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE4AC7SU20081114
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081114-is-government-regulation-needed-to-ensure-net-neutrality.html

GirlInYourShirt: $75 buys your start-up marketing for a day
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/13/girlinyourshirt-75-buys-your-startup-marketing-for-a-day/

DNA strands modified into tiny fiber-optic cables
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/14/135213

Purified urine to be astronauts’ drinking water
http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSTRE4AD3MB20081114#

Voice mail
Eric from Michigan: Wii Fit!

Chris from Austin: the girl and the netbook

E-mail

This is Kevin Yeaux from openSUSE again. We’re on our way to our first
release candidate for openSUSE 11.1 on November 27th, but there was some
other big news today: Banshee, the open-source music player sponsored by
openSUSE/Novell, just released it’s 1.4 version.

The biggest news in here is for owners of the T-Mobile G1 Android phone:
full support for the phone’s music playing capabilities. Full automatic
or manual synchronization, cover art, and the ability to import music
purchased on the Amazon MP3 store into your computer.

The other major news is that there is a beta release of Banshee 1.4 for
Mac OS X. Also included are many areas of UI polish and bugfixes.

Banshee is a Mono-based open-source media player that supports music,
movies, podcasts, features Last.fm integration, and more. Banshee is the
default music player for openSUSE.

For more info, see http://www.Banshee-Project.org and
http://abock.org/2008/11/13/banshee-14-hits-the-streets-packed-with-awesome/

Thanks, and *love* the show, ya’ll.

Kevin

**********

I think I can explain why RIM went with the suretype keyboard on the new BlackBerry Storm. I have the Pearl, which has the same double lettered keyboard.
I can type so much faster on this phone than I can on any other; even my friends with full QWERTY phones can’t nearly keep up with me. And I think I know why: You can just hit the general direction of the key you want, the area you are aiming for is twice the size of a normal key. The phone software does an excellent job of guessing what you mean, and it learns new words as you type. It also has the added bonus of doing punctuation for you! On a touchscreen, that would be even more usefful.

Good job!
Ryan from Fresno

**********

This is in response to the netbook email you guys received in episode 851. Upon hearing the email, I recalled a recent Kotaku.com article (http://kotaku.com/5083584/the-number-one-location-for-portable-gaming-is-home). I wouldn’t be surprised if people bought these netbooks and just used them around the house. I think Kotaku puts it best saying ” ‘portable’ can be defined as ‘will work on the toilet or in bed’ “.

Love the show! Not a long-time listener, but hope to be a… future long-time listener…?

-Alex M.
Berkley, MI

**********

In addition to having a trademark on a word (CBS ) or a logo (think about the CBS Eye) you can also protect what is called Trade Dress . Remember this branch of law is about protecting indicators of source-that is the mark by which consumers know your products from someone else’s. Pretty much anything that can be tied to a specific good or service, or a source of those goods and services, is protectable. That includes how that good or service looks/is packaged. Need easy examples?

Think about how all McDonalds look the same on the inside. Or how, even without the label, you’d know what a Coke bottl e looks like (or a Mrs. Butterworths for that matter.) These aren’t names or logos per se, but you’d know what the goods/services were anyway. This Trade Dress can apply to both the packaging of the goods, or the goods themselves. Usually the Office will not say something is inherently distinctive (and instantly protectable under TM law) but will require a showing of acquired distinctiveness (meaning you have to show that consumers have come to associate the trade dress with your products only).

Now I know what you’re thinking-isn’t it incredibly dangerous to grant Trademark protection to how a good is shaped etc? Isn’t there a possibility that the Office would be granting a Patent in perpetuity for a design or invention that should only be protected by Patent’s limited term? And you’re right-it is tricky business. This is why the good people at the USPTO get paid to do what they do. It is a very tricky job to separate those elements of packaging/the goods that are protectable to those that are functional or patentable etc-but this is what is done. It is incredibly complex at times and would bore the Buzz audience beyond repair to explain it in full detail-so go look it up if you want to know more.

So let’s get back to Lego-Apparently they were granted a EU Trademark for the design of their blocks (which is to say that the EU office originally thought that there was something about the Lego block in its appearance that made it distinct from other building blocks and that consumers would recognize it as a lego block based on its shape alone). Mega Block , which brought the cancellation suit, must have said something like “wait a minute! This a patent/functional thing and the EU should have never granted protection for this design. We should be able to make competing blocks and the protection is baring us from doing so.”

(For a point of reference think about how the coke bottle, while protected, doesn’t prevent Pepsi from putting soda in a bottle the way that the protection here might prevent Mega Block from making toys.)

What has happened is that that court has agreed and cancelled the protection for Lego. This will get appealed, clearly, and we’ll have to see what happens.

Also-this analysis involved a little guesswork because I”m not that familiar with how EU trademark law works-but it works roughly the same.

For the record-I didn’t find any trade-dress protection for the Lego block in the US.

-Anon.

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by Petrifiedwood November 14, 2008 10:15 PM PST
Hi Gang!

I saw several caged and ready to get sold Netbooks on the shelves at my local Costco. I love the size! I was with my sister and she said no way will I buy a notebook without a CD or DVD drive. I quickly explained the trend. She still said no way! I like the concept except that I fell a netbook should have features to make up for not having the CD or DVD drives. I have an external drive so I'm OK.

Be real cool to load the Desktop DVD drive with your blank disc only to find out that a sibling replaced it with a CD. You attempt to burn your DVD only to have many many errors and wasted time. You return to the desktop to find your sibling wasn't able to get her CD burned because you had control of the burning drive. I'd like to see this netbook concept take off and a way to storge or backup when needed.

I think I have big hands and Netbook are too small for me.

P
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by deanlowe November 15, 2008 5:44 PM PST
RE: GirlInYourShirt

Leah Culver did something like this (laser etched logos on a laptop) couple of years ago.
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by Papa Chango November 16, 2008 9:05 AM PST
>Banshee is a Mono-based open-source media player

I think its tremendous that the folks at Gnome have named their disease piece of code after a disease.
Flee Mono in all its forms!! If Microsoft actually plays out their bluff and names names when it comes to infringing IP, Mono will be their little trojan horse.

Besides, most open source media players like Banshee, Totem and Rhythmbox still suck oranges.

You want good media players for GNU-Linux?
Its simple.

1. Use VLC for all your video needs no matter your OS. You will become format agnostic.
2. Use Amarok for audio.http://amarok.kde.org/

Props also to Songbird which is cross plaftorm free software and has improved by leaps and bounds in its short existence http://getsongbird.com/download/
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by afroloq November 17, 2008 6:14 AM PST
Hey Buzz crew...check this out....a Lawyer is actually taking on the music industry!


http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20081117/ap_on_hi_te/tec_music_downloading


BOSTON - The music industry's courtroom campaign against people who share songs online is coming under counterattack.

A Harvard Law School professor has launched a constitutional assault against a federal copyright law at the heart of the industry's aggressive strategy, which has wrung payments from thousands of song-swappers since 2003.

The professor, Charles Nesson, has come to the defense of a Boston University graduate student targeted in one of the music industry's lawsuits. By taking on the case, Nesson hopes to

- Harry from MD
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by virtualboy_edm November 18, 2008 2:52 PM PST
Just wanted to comment on netbooks in the wild.

I am a very small (one person) computer service "guru" but I have sold probably 60 ASUS EEEpc of different models 701 900 1000 etc etc etc

also the oldest software that I own and still use in Maximizer for DOS, it still works for everything that I need, and the new versions with various database engines etc etc make it nothing but bloatware.

DONT GET ME WRONG!! my computer is new, AMD Quad-core 9950 with 3 GB RAM and Windows XP Professional, 5 320 GB SATAII HDD's in Raid 5, but why slow it down with bloatware
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by stegdag November 30, 2008 1:01 PM PST
OK. I know this is a bit late, but I'm just listening to #853 and all my other podcasts now - November 30. I was participating in Nanowrimo (national novel writing month) and didn't have time to listen to podcasts all month.

BUT let's talk about software that people still use after years. I'm not using MacPaint or any of those packages that are 20+ years old, but I still use a lot of stuff that only works on Mac Classic. I don't see that happening for a while because programs like Quicken, WriteNow, Filemaker, Quark and other software taht worked on Classic is wonky or just doesn't work on Tiger or Leopard. So I'm locked into this old stuff forever.

As for phoning home, does all software do this? I've got a friend who has used Creative Suite for years without losing access to updates and such. And I know he's 'testing' the software and didn't buy it.

Thanks. Love the show.

Jeff
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